Tactics and Training

[Big Neville Southall]

Not seen a thread on this but since my kids have got into playing football I've found myself trying out small training routines in the garden, and showing them basic tactics with the subutteo players.

When they go to training I notice there isn't really any teamwork defensive tactics and the coaches kind of expect them to just know how to defend as a team, so I'm looking at youtube vids on coaching.

So thought it might be good to have a thread we can dip into now and then, see different ideas, tactical thoughts with training ideas.

Eg, a couple of training things we done in the garden, two players passing quick to each other with a third just out of peripheral view of the middle player. The third player has to put his hand up when he wants a pass. The idea is that puts in the middle players mind that he has to keep looking up to see a pass.

Another, took from youtube, one dribbler, two defenders, one closes down the other at 45 degree angle ready to cover or close down if the dribbler goes to the other half.

Anyway I'm sure others on here might get involved in coaching, and maybe looking to share ideas with people far more itk than I am, so this post is more of a starting point for the subject rather than anything useful being passed on by me.

 

[LEONARD]

Too many of our players seem to have poor peripheral vision, passes on left and right, to better placed teammates, that our constantly scorned.

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

Not seen a thread on this but since my kids have got into playing football I've found myself trying out small training routines in the garden, and showing them basic tactics with the subutteo players.

When they go to training I notice there isn't really any teamwork defensive tactics and the coaches kind of expect them to just know how to defend as a team, so I'm looking at youtube vids on coaching.

So thought it might be good to have a thread we can dip into now and then, see different ideas, tactical thoughts with training ideas.

Eg, a couple of training things we done in the garden, two players passing quick to each other with a third just out of peripheral view of the middle player. The third player has to put his hand up when he wants a pass. The idea is that puts in the middle players mind that he has to keep looking up to see a pass.

Another, took from youtube, one dribbler, two defenders, one closes down the other at 45 degree angle ready to cover or close down if the dribbler goes to the other half.

Anyway I'm sure others on here might get involved in coaching, and maybe looking to share ideas with people far more itk than I am, so this post is more of a starting point for the subject rather than anything useful being passed on by me.

How big's your garden, mate? Room for 25 or so more?

 

[GP_Monty]

Two absolutely alien concepts which will never catch on.

 

[Yarrgh]

Not seen a thread on this but since my kids have got into playing football I've found myself trying out small training routines in the garden, and showing them basic tactics with the subutteo players.

When they go to training I notice there isn't really any teamwork defensive tactics and the coaches kind of expect them to just know how to defend as a team, so I'm looking at youtube vids on coaching.

So thought it might be good to have a thread we can dip into now and then, see different ideas, tactical thoughts with training ideas.

Eg, a couple of training things we done in the garden, two players passing quick to each other with a third just out of peripheral view of the middle player. The third player has to put his hand up when he wants a pass. The idea is that puts in the middle players mind that he has to keep looking up to see a pass.

Another, took from youtube, one dribbler, two defenders, one closes down the other at 45 degree angle ready to cover or close down if the dribbler goes to the other half.

Anyway I'm sure others on here might get involved in coaching, and maybe looking to share ideas with people far more itk than I am, so this post is more of a starting point for the subject rather than anything useful being passed on by me.

Are you Sean Dyche in the real world?

 

[Azza]

Suppose the big question is how old are your children.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Not seen a thread on this but since my kids have got into playing football I've found myself trying out small training routines in the garden, and showing them basic tactics with the subutteo players.

When they go to training I notice there isn't really any teamwork defensive tactics and the coaches kind of expect them to just know how to defend as a team, so I'm looking at youtube vids on coaching.

So thought it might be good to have a thread we can dip into now and then, see different ideas, tactical thoughts with training ideas.

Eg, a couple of training things we done in the garden, two players passing quick to each other with a third just out of peripheral view of the middle player. The third player has to put his hand up when he wants a pass. The idea is that puts in the middle players mind that he has to keep looking up to see a pass.

Another, took from youtube, one dribbler, two defenders, one closes down the other at 45 degree angle ready to cover or close down if the dribbler goes to the other half.

Anyway I'm sure others on here might get involved in coaching, and maybe looking to share ideas with people far more itk than I am, so this post is more of a starting point for the subject rather than anything useful being passed on by me.

How old are your kids mate?

No one in their right mind will/should try to explain defensive teamwork tactics and pressure lines to a bunch of kids lol

I've done youth coaching and you don't lean into that until much later.

 

[Big Neville Southall]

Are you Sean Dyche in the real world?

I haven't made any subs in the back garden yet so possibly

 

[Big Neville Southall]

How old are your kids mate?

No one in their right mind will/should try to explain defensive teamwork tactics and pressure lines to a bunch of kids lol

I've done youth coaching and you don't lean into that until much later.

It came from my 12 Yr old being asked to play Defensive mid and being told to be disciplined during a game and to work together. It's confusing for a kid, and older, though, when to press, when to hold your position and when to go with your runner. So just trying to come up with some of the basics really

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Can someone tag Sean Dyche in this thread so he can learn something?

 

[Kurt.]

If In doubt .. kick it out !!

 

[DualityNSNO]

It came from my 12 Yr old being asked to play Defensive mid and being told to be disciplined during a game and to work together. It's confusing for a kid, and older, though, when to press, when to hold your position and when to go with your runner. So just trying to come up with some of the basics really

What's a mistake there (in my opinion) is to not at least basically instruct what to do, but different people have different views on this from what I've noticed.

Some just want to "let the kids play", but if they (or you) are serious about their future in the sport you have to make some instructions about the positions based on what you've seen the kid be good at and stuff.

Some are borderline psychotic and pretending/wanting to be Guardiola and spewing 10000 instructions and whiteboards and all, which for that age group is insanity.

 

[Big Neville Southall]

What's a mistake there (in my opinion) is to not at least basically instruct what to do, but different people have different views on this from what I've noticed.

Some just want to "let the kids play", but if they (or you) e serious about their future in the sport you have to make some instructions about the positions based on what you've seen the kid be good at and stuff.

Some are borderline psychotic and pretending/wanting to be Guardiola and spewing 10000 instructions and whiteboards and all, which for that age group is insanity.

I think there has to be an age related balance. I think how they feel they play affects their enjoyment of it so anything that can make them better improves it.

As you say though go too far and it's stressful for them and takes away their main enjoyment.

 

[DualityNSNO]

I think there has to be an age related balance. I think how they feel they play affects their enjoyment of it so anything that can make them better improves it.

As you say though go too far and it's stressful for them and takes away their main enjoyment.

When I did that it was basically trying every kid on every position and then after they'd settled in something they enjoy and are good at to have basic instructions like the CB's following the same line, slight awareness of where others are, teamplay/movement and things like that.

It takes a while though, 1 game wouldn't be a good example of things. I obviously can't/don't know how it goes for your kids' team like, but this is my opinion on it. Maybe the coach is trying something out like that, is that a possibility?

 

[Kurt.]

I could offer an insight into this, unfortunately I’m contracted to another club so you’d have to go through my agent who will discuss fair recompense and terms on my behalf.