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Takeovers, a good thing?

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  • Freddie Shepherd sold Newcastle to Mike Ashley. That has not gone well.
  • Alexandre Gaydamak bought Portsmouth from someone in January 2006, and is now in the process of selling to Sulaiman al-Fahim. To be fair they won the 2008 FA cup beating Cardiff. As it stands they appear to be selling a lot of players and I dont know much about manager Paul Hart.
  • Man City Limited sold out to Shinawatra in 2007, being a bit dodgy and wanted for serious crimes back in Thailand he sold up to Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan in 2008.
  • Ellis Short bought Sunderland completely by the end of 2008 finally getting the remaining shares from Drumaville Consortium (an Irish group).
  • 'Deadly' Doug sold Villa to Randy Lerner in 2006

How often are takeovers the automatic success a lot of people seem to believe they are?
 
DuncIrkSpirit said:
  • Freddie Shepherd sold Newcastle to Mike Ashley. That has not gone well.

    Ashley settled a lot of debts and invested in the squad, its only gone bad because of the utter drivel they have on the pitch. From a boardroom point of view, Success.
  • Alexandre Gaydamak bought Portsmouth from someone in January 2006, and is now in the process of selling to Sulaiman al-Fahim. To be fair they won the 2008 FA cup beating Cardiff. As it stands they appear to be selling a lot of players and I dont know much about manager Paul Hart.

    Bad, bad, bad, selling players all over the show. From a boardroom point of view, FAIL.
  • Man City Limited sold out to Shinawatra in 2007, being a bit dodgy and wanted for serious crimes back in Thailand he sold up to Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan in 2008.

    The Arabs have just spent £200m or so, bid for world class players. From a boardroom point of view, Success.
  • Ellis Short bought Sunderland completely by the end of 2008 finally getting the remaining shares from Drumaville Consortium (an Irish group).

    Got in some good player and spending some cash. From a boardroom point of view, Success.
  • 'Deadly' Doug sold Villa to Randy Lerner in 2006

Hes got the money, hes not throwin it about, but he will invest as and when he feels its needed. From a boardroom point of view, Success.

How often are takeovers the automatic success a lot of people seem to believe they are?
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Not every team has the spine that we have, the manager, the good group of players, we would need very little in terms of player investment.
 
Newcastle :- Boardroom success?
Portsmouth :- Boardroom fail?
City :- Boardroom success?
Sunderland :- Boardroom success?
Villa :- Boardroom success?

Ironic that the only fail in that five is the club that has won a trophy. The value of Newcastle football club is well down on what was forked out, players leaving on frees, and fire sales for the rest. Success?
City have spent money over the past 12 months, thats not an issue, but Spurs and Liverpool have spent big as well in the past say 3 seasons or so, havn't they? (granted Spurs picked up the League cup)
Sunderland seem very able at buying up Spurs castoffs, perhaps they are in for the League cup.
Villa have just lost one of their star players and have not replaced. Success?

As for
we would need very little in terms of player investment.
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What exactly does that mean?
 
I think he means, 2 of 3 world class players and we'd be contending for top 3. Wouldnt need a 200mill overhaul.

Citeh will get a return on what they spend with the takeover. Their owners are bulldozing everything to win something and they probably will.

Spurs just havent got the right manager. Could change with Redknapp.

Sunderland are just Sunderland...they dont have Citeh megabucks, but they have enough to buy expensive players. They just dont have the draw and brand to pull bigger names.


Pompey, and mainly Redknapp's fault, bought players he wanted and put them on high wages...Redknapp saw their was no money, jump ship, the owners had to cut their losses.

Its all about business management really. Dont over spend what you cant get to keep the club running. That seems to be the fault of the owners of the RS.

But even though the RS have spent - the 2nd season with those owners, they were the closest they've been to winning the league for 20 odd years.
 

I think you'll find all clubs have been & will be taken over, shares change hands, people relinquish control (or die) & new people take control.
 
DENNIS STEVENS said:
I think you'll find all clubs have been & will be taken over, shares change hands, people relinquish control (or die) & new people take control.
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I believe there is a little bit more to it than that. Doug Ellis had control at Villa for something like thirty years didn't he? And Shinawatra held Man City for just over twelve months. These two are not even extremes in cases of point.
 
Newcastle was a successful one in my opinion.

How could the fans blame Shearer of Keegan for going down? Ashley, although a complete and utter plank, was just a scape goat in the whole thing.
 
Azzbot said:
Newcastle was a successful one in my opinion.

How could the fans blame Shearer of Keegan for going down? Ashley, although a complete and utter plank, was just a scape goat in the whole thing.
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Sam Allardyce must love you. How he escapes with zero blame must only vex the little people of society like me.
 

DuncIrkSpirit said:
I believe there is a little bit more to it than that. Doug Ellis had control at Villa for something like thirty years didn't he? And Shinawatra held Man City for just over twelve months. These two are not even extremes in cases of point.
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No, I don't think there's any more to it than that - shares &, through those shares, control of clubs change hands. Sometimes quite rapidly & sometimes not so rapidly, as you've noticed.
 
And so we look at Arsenal and what is happening with shares there. Like I said more to share acquisition and release than meets the eye. In 'pretty woman' terms, hostile takeover vs trying to strengthen a business. (only the long legged hooker is not required, unless we chat rugby.)
 

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