The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

[graeme2911]

Someone has a different opinion than me. Can we bash their skulls with a brick.

Idiot.

I said "short of caving their heads in with a brick". Idiot.

1) read things properly and you won't be such an angry and hysterically offended person
2) It was a throw away flippant comment, chill out.

 

[Clint Planet]

It should never be forgotten that the Labour Government had to catch up on 17 years of under investment in almost all government services.

Yeah, my Head says it was dreadful under Thacher and Major. It's bad enough now with resourcing (I probably spend £300 a year on books for my class room) but it was noticably worse under the Tories if my HT is to be believed (and I've no reason to doubt her).

 

[bring the ghost on]

It wouldn't have been Labour though. It would've been a coalition between 2 parties. That's how our democracy works. As stated earlier, we vote for or MPs and as I have pointed out previously there is nothing stopping them changing allegiance at any point.

Very good point and an important distinction to make. The constitutional conventions have been developed to promote confidencr via a working majority. If a certain party holds more votes than anyone else, but are short of a majority and fail to secure the backing of enough additional MPs, they shouldn't be able to form a govt.

 

[SNova]

I said "short of caving their heads in with a brick". Idiot.

1) read things properly and you won't be such an angry and hysterically offended person
2) It was a throw away flippant comment, chill out.

You just called people that vote ukip uneducated morons.

 

[Clint Planet]

Why DO you intend to vote UKIP? Is it purely over immigration?

 

[Brennan]

Yeah, my Head says it was dreadful under Thacher and Major. It's bad enough now with resourcing (I probably spend £300 a year on books for my class room) but it was noticably worse under the Tories if my HT is to be believed (and I've no reason to doubt her).

But Labour's pledge for the next parliament would be just as bad as the Tories for schools, if not slightly worse ?

 

[rascal]

Why DO you intend to vote UKIP? Is it purely over immigration?

Now now, they also intend to shrink the state, to the point that schools suffer and crime rises significantly, wouldn't want to vote for that?

 

[graeme2911]

You just called people that vote ukip uneducated morons.

So? My opinion is they are either uneducated, ill-informed or moronic, or all of them.
Am I not allowed an opinion? Didn't you just say exactly this to me?

The UKIP bubble has well and truly burst. The only people I know who are voting UKIP are generally people who haven't heard the full extent of their policies and buy into the empty "normal bloke" rhetoric of Farage, or are racists who "want to send the [insert slur here] back".

 

[SNova]

So? My opinion is they are either uneducated, ill-informed or moronic, or all of them.
Am I not allowed an opinion? Didn't you just say exactly this to me?

The UKIP bubble has well and truly burst. The only people I know who are voting UKIP are generally people who haven't heard the full extent of their policies and buy into the empty "normal bloke" rhetoric of Farage, or are racists who "want to send the [insert slur here] back".

Which policies would they be.

 

[SNova]

Why DO you intend to vote UKIP? Is it purely over immigration?

Here's the policies I agree with, I agree with many more, but these are some of the main ones:

Firstly, the main ones that people know about. Leaving the EU, having an Australian Point Style immigration system and decreasing foreign aid.

Then;

Fund 20,000 more nurses, 8,000 more GPs and 3,000 more midwives

Invest an extra £1.5 billion into mental health and dementia services over the next five years

Scrap hospital parking charges

End ‘health tourism’ by making sure those ineligible for free NHS care pay for treatment

Increase social care funding in total by £5.2 billion between 2015 and 2020

Scrap the ‘bedroom tax’

Bring back grammar schools and support a range of secondary schools including vocational, technical and specialist schools

Waive tuition fees for science, technology, engineering, mathematics and medicine (STEMM) subjects at university

Oppose the so-called ‘Mansion Tax.’

Scrap HS2: this is an expensive, politically-driven vanity project for which there is no good business case. It will blight our countryside and not solve the problem of capacity

End road tolls wherever possible

Allow British businesses to choose to employ British workers first

Prevent foreign criminals coming into the UK and deport those who commit crimes here

Decriminalise non-payment of the BBC licence fee and review its cost with a view to its reduction.

There is also a policy to help our war vets more.

I agree with many more, but this list is getting very long.

 

[peteblue]

It wouldn't have been Labour though. It would've been a coalition between 2 parties. That's how our democracy works. As stated earlier, we vote for or MPs and as I have pointed out previously there is nothing stopping them changing allegiance at any point.

And who would have been PM ? The same man that 17.5M people voted against.........

 

[Clint Planet]

But Labour's pledge for the next parliament would be just as bad as the Tories for schools, if not slightly worse ?

Not sure how you've arrived at that. Are you aware of the impending Teacher crisis due to 5 years of Tory attacks on the profession, mate? In all honesty, I'm looking into the possibility of a career change, myself. Morale is shot to pieces in the profession.

 

[Clint Planet]

Here's the policies I agree with, I agree with many more, but these are some of the main ones:

Do you not accept that immigrants make a net contribution to the economy? Are you happy with Brits not being allowed to work and live in the EU? Are you concerned about the commonly-held view that leaving the EU will seriously damage our economy? Does it worry you that so many UKIP candidates seem to be racist loonies?

 

[SNova]

Do you not accept that immigrants make a net contribution to the economy? Are you happy with Brits not being allowed to work and live in the EU? Are you concerned about the commonly-held view that leaving the EU will seriously damage our economy? Does it worry you that so many UKIP candidates seem to be racist loonies?

I'm not saying I don't want immigration. I want controlled immigration (like most countries have). Yes I'd be happy for EU countries to decide if they'd like UK citizens to work or live in their country, just like Australia and America do for example.
No, I'm not to be honest. We import more than we export, so why wouldn't they do a trade deal with us? The EU would be losing a hell of a lot of money for no reason. No, every party have these type of people, they just don't make it into the news. I know that their policies and main people are spot on and not racist etc.

 

[Brennan]

Not sure how you've arrived at that. Are you aware of the impending Teacher crisis due to 5 years of Tory attacks on the profession, mate? In all honesty, I'm looking into the possibility of a career change, myself. Morale is shot to pieces in the profession.

Overall spending for education between the ages of 3 and 18. Labour have said they'll protect the budget as it stands, not taking into account an anticipated increase in pupil numbers of 7% during the next parliament. The Tories have said they will guarantee per pupil spending, not taking into account inflation which is expected to be around 7% during the next parliament.

Both parties will have a significant real term cut to school level education funding if that is the case.