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The Everton Board Thread

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PhilM said:
I'm not disagreeing with the idea of protest nor am I saying the questioning of the board's standards is wrong, but the RS comparison doesn't truly fit.

The lowest league position they've finished in since 1962 is eighth - yes, eighth! Rightly or wrongly, the idea of finishing below that is abhorrent to them.

Sadly, we can't display such a record, so again (rightly or wrongly) there is more of an acceptance (perhaps tolerance) of underperformance.

This isn't new - it's generational - and as such it's harder to get fans fuelled for a confrontation. For large swathes of our fan base, there's an apathy.

Chronic mismanagement for the past six years has been the catalyst, however the rot set in much earlier than that, which is the saddest part of it all.

I sit with young adults at the game who've never seen us win a cup; I sit with men and women with children of their own, who weren't alive when we won the league.

That shouldn't be underestimated because us ol' farts remember those halcyon days, and remember when Everton was about winning. In 1992, we were still big!
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Totally agree, I watched an interview with John Moores about the paying fan having the right to be dissatisfied.

The club is 19th, out of the FA cup and league cup. Have no single player capable of scoring more than 3 or 4 goals before the end of the season.

How far do we fall before something is done?

You might argue the reds were right to protest because of their excellent record, another man might argue their excellent records deserves loyalty. A moot point really.
 
PhilM said:
You're right. However, in my humble opinion that has come from the very top (the current and previous owners, the board et al.) rather than the fans.

The latter have become use to expecting under-investment, players not of the highest standard and consequently underperformance on the pitch.

I'm not saying fans are entirely blameless (that's another discussion entirely), yet it's not us who invest the money, choose how it's spent and who's appointed.

If you'd had said to me in '88 that it'd be 2023 and we'd never come close to winning the league, let alone winning one, I would have told you to k'off.

That's where we are, though. Don't get me wrong, there is no right to win things because it takes hard work and good decision-making, which we've lacked.
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I think a lot of fans became happy being the best of the rest plus taking a weird moral stance, that our owner is a fan and not buying the league. Remember talking to a few fans of other clubs in 2009, and they were taking the piss that Evertonians make out they are the moral guardians.
 
Moonlight dribbler said:
You might argue the reds were right to protest because of their excellent record, another man might argue their excellent records deserves loyalty. A moot point really.
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It's definitely a moot point. We have our own record in terms of length in the top flight, which we should do everything to preserve.

But, I appreciate why lots of fans perhaps have apathy, including to an extent myself, because of the decades of decline that we've endured.
 
Moonlight dribbler said:
I think a lot of fans became happy being the best of the rest plus taking a weird moral stance, that our owner is a fan and not buying the league. Remember talking to a few fans of other clubs in 2009, and they were taking the piss that Evertonians make out they are the moral guardians.
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I agree. It’s either that or we are seen as no threat and give us a pat on the head.

All helped along by Kenwright and Moyes’ plucky underdogs charm offensive with the media to stop any criticism.
 
That is why our younger fans have had it so tough. The Mersey Millionaires, The Cathedral that is Goodison. The Holy Trinity. I grew up on all of this and yes in the seventies we won sod all but by God we did have some real good times. Now its "the goodison gang" "pen knives to a gun fight" "evertonians are made not manufactured" Its all been small time, lets be thankful, hey Kirkby sounds good. Top ten finishes, thats good time. One constant in all of this William Kenwright. He has used Everton firstly as a vehicle to feed his ego and then luckily a vehicle to make him rich beyond his wildest dreams. And the best of it at 76 he is taking a massive salary from our team/our club. Relegation is coming and the only positive is that should stop any stand naming or statue at the new stadium. I genuinely feel for the new breed of fans, we used to give it dogs abuse and our anger maybe made the club listen in those days.
 

Moonlight dribbler said:
I think a lot of fans became happy being the best of the rest plus taking a weird moral stance, that our owner is a fan and not buying the league. Remember talking to a few fans of other clubs in 2009, and they were taking the piss that Evertonians make out they are the moral guardians.
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I think that’s not far from the truth.

I think part of the reason we find ourselves where we do is that we took it for granted that we were the 7th best team in the league for so long - regardless of where we finished.

If we finished lower than that, we presumed it was an aberration that would be resolved the following season - perhaps with a change of manager or a couple of signings.

Moshiri’s money contributed to that complacency. Not one of us thought we’d be worse off with money to spend.

So I think the crisis crept up on us in our complacency.

We aren’t the 7th best team in the league, we don’t have a right to remain in this division through inertia alone. We aren’t immune from trouble.
 

EuroTexan said:
Ashley renamed the stadium and put up advertising all around the ground to promote his below minimum wage paying crapfest. Moshiri/Usamanov paid above market rates for sponsorship around Goodison and Finch Farm, and for naming rights for BMD.
Ashley sold off club owned property around the stadium which will restrict the stadium development for decades to come. Moshiri is ensuring that the replacement to Goodison finally happens
Ashley kept investment in the team so minimal that they got relegated twice during his ownership. Fingers crossed its never happened once to Moshiri so far and never will in the future.

Moshiri is no saint, and who knows his exact reasoning for buying in, and whether he's able or willing to invest further given whats going on with Russia & Ukraine. But compared to Ashley.. I'd take Moshiri any day.
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Mate, you're absolutely right but he's a sad middle aged bloke trolling an online forum of a club he claims to support.

Don't give the pathetic specimen the same air you breathe.
 
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