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The Friedkin Group reaches agreement to buy Everton

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Coleman shouldn't be anywhere near premier league football now.

simple question would he get into a top 6 side? No
in that case he is not good enough for us as that's where we should be aiming next year, bare in mind Villa binned young off 2 seasons ago look at them now 😉
Mate, he'd probably struggle to get into a bottom six side with his injury record. I like Coleman on a personal level and what he's stood for, but it's time to move on.

For too long, Everton as a club has allowed sentiment and worse, nepotism, to cloud judgements: he needs thanking and releasing, and we look elsewhere.
 
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They’ve already dropped a bollock at Roma getting rid of De Rossi.

If Coleman wants to stay for another season and the new owners block that, it’s not a good start. I suspect lessons would have been learnt.

Hang on...

The narrative is that De Rossi has been a nightmare to work with. Sacking him (after a pretty inauspicious start this season) isn't necessarily a mistake. You could argue that appointing him in the first place was a mistake or that giving him that contract in the summer was a mistake, but not sacking someone just because the Ultras love him would also be in itself a mistake.

The same would be true of giving Coleman another year. I think everyone appreciates that the lad is a great servant and at his best was one of the best full backs in the league, but there's hardly going to be uproar if a player of his age, who has struggled to keep fit for a while now, is told his services are no longer required at the end of the season. Giving him a new deal on the basis that the fans might appreciate it would be nuts.
 
we don’t need to sell?!
Don't we?? Depends entirely were we are up to with the financial fair play rules. We can only spend up to certain strict limits (and neither you nor I know what these are). To increase the ability to spend we have to increase our income, and in the short term that inevitably means sell someone. We haven't currently got any other income streams.
 
Hang on...

The narrative is that De Rossi has been a nightmare to work with. Sacking him (after a pretty inauspicious start this season) isn't necessarily a mistake. You could argue that appointing him in the first place was a mistake or that giving him that contract in the summer was a mistake, but not sacking someone just because the Ultras love him would also be in itself a mistake.

The same would be true of giving Coleman another year. I think everyone appreciates that the lad is a great servant and at his best was one of the best full backs in the league, but there's hardly going to be uproar if a player of his age, who has struggled to keep fit for a while now, is told his services are no longer required at the end of the season. Giving him a new deal on the basis that the fans might appreciate it would be nuts.
There’s a difference between a football mistake and a PR mistake.

They will be uber-conscious of that experience now, which is why everyone who is expecting them to come in and sweep away all sentimentality from the club is going to be disappointed.
 
There’s a difference between a football mistake and a PR mistake.

They will be uber-conscious of that experience now, which is why everyone who is expecting them to come in and sweep away all sentimentality from the club is going to be disappointed.

I wouldn't want every tiny bit of sentimentality to be stripped out of the club, but I don't think any top clubs do that anyway. Liverpool (who you'd have to grudgingly admit are one of the best run clubs around) have their ex players floating about doing all kinds of PR stuff, stands named after legends, ex players in junior coaching positions etc.

I would hope, however, that decisions about playing staff and decisions about the actual running of the club are not made on the basis of sentimentality under new ownership
 

I would hope, however, that decisions about playing staff and decisions about the actual running of the club are not made on the basis of sentimentality under new ownership
I would hope so, too.

I'm simply saying that what's happened at Roma is going to make them super careful about getting rid of anyone who might be held in high regard by the fanbase.

Of course, we're not monolithic, so it depends on whose counsel they are keeping about who and want matters to 'the fanbase.'
 
Don't we?? Depends entirely were we are up to with the financial fair play rules. We can only spend up to certain strict limits (and neither you nor I know what these are). To increase the ability to spend we have to increase our income, and in the short term that inevitably means sell someone. We haven't currently got any other income streams.

i don’t have a clue mate but we sold what we needed to in summer

you would think we can?
 

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