The return of David Moyes

[NathDogg]

Such a small time thinking appointment if we go for dour davey imo, and the media push for Moyes is a sickening as them spouting that Dyche was the best man for the job of keeping us up, which was also nonsense.

That said, going backwards to Moyes is probably due to the situation the miracle worker has left us in, but I can’t deny I was hoping for more dynamism and ambition from them rather than going backwards.

I do think he will do better than Dyche, but that’s not too high a bar to get over.

Hopefully it’s all media nonsense and TFG are looking at someone different - no one saw them sacking the miracle worker 3 hours before kick off, so I hope all the noise around Moyes is just their usual BS as well.

 

[polish]

I think some perspective is required here

Right now we’re in a relegation battle, we’re still not out of the PSR jungle, and we’ve got a squad of players who either aren’t that great or have mentally checked out

Do you really want to throw a bright young manager into shark infested waters like that? Would any of them even want the job under the current circumstances?

It’s probably time for an experienced head to get us out of the mud in the short term

If Moyes does get it, then it’s going to be more about laying the table and steadying the foundation for the manager that follows him

Moyes will be a stop along the way, not the final destination

There’s a bigger picture here that goes beyond the next six months

I’m fine with 18 months under Moyes. Steady rebuilding instead of revolution.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

I’m more or less resigned to his return now tbh.
Just dream of better

We all do mate.

Unfortunately it just feels like everything takes an eternity with us ha

 

[Saint Domingo]

The very fact evertonians were able to retain a scrap of lofty ambitions in the post 2000 era is purely because of the work Moyes did here. We had frozen training pitches when he arrived and a sentimental fool of an owner who was operating a sell to buy transfer policy whilst he mortgaged the club to the hilt.

Every other non top 6 club went down at some point in that period yet Everton went from perennial relegation battlers to regular European qualifiers with some of the best players we’ve seen in the prem era playing for us at that time.

Can you imagine if Martinez had taken over in 2002, good lord we’d have probably been liquidated by now. Yet some fans go on about how he didn’t win a cup final vs the best team in Europe at the time or some comments he made when he went to United.

He did a brilliant job when he was here first time, and he repeated it at West Ham.

 

[CielosGrises]

I’m more or less resigned to his return now tbh.
Just dream of better.

Good to dream of better but was that ever going to happen whilst our current state ?

And what is better ? Towards mid-table at the moment.

Expectations fluctuate wildly - mine are the same as before - get to BMD and improve the squad in the summer. Have a stable season there and then try for more.

PSR says we can't just throw money at the problem - so it has to be time.

 

[hallamblue]

Such a small time thinking appointment if we go for dour davey imo, and the media push for Moyes is a sickening as them spouting that Dyche was the best man for the job of keeping us up, which was also nonsense.

That said, going backwards to Moyes is probably due to the situation the miracle worker has left us in, but I can’t deny I was hoping for more dynamism and ambition from them rather than going backwards.

I do think he will do better than Dyche, but that’s not too high a bar to get over.

Hopefully it’s all media nonsense and TFG are looking at someone different - no one saw them sacking the miracle worker 3 hours before kick off, so I hope all the noise around Moyes is just their usual BS as well.

There's a world in which Moyes keeps us up and then moves upstairs and we bring in a more dynamic coach. That would be tolerable.

 

[Bedfordblue]

I’d be suprised to see Moyes accept any less than a 3 year contract tbh.
Which inevitably will take us back into the cycle of expensive managerial replacements when he’s binned in 12-18 months imho.

 

[Ragnar]

Some of our fans are nuts. This is the most sensible appointment we could make. We have to stay in the PL this season. Our fans just never learn, always wanting the big shiny names, then moan when it doesn’t work out. If this deal is 6 months then it’s perfect.

 

[Ragnar]

I’d be suprised to see Moyes accept any less than a 3 year contract tbh.
Which inevitably will take us back into the cycle of expensive managerial replacements when he’s binned in 12-18 months imho.

Depends if there’s a big fat bonus cheque attached to a 6 month deal for keeping us up. Money talks.

 

[Eidean]

Some of our fans are nuts. This is the most sensible appointment we could make. We have to stay in the PL this season. Our fans just never learn, always wanting the big shiny names, then moan when it doesn’t work out. If this deal is 6 months then it’s perfect.

Yeah but Allegri and Jose?

 

[Bedfordblue]

There's a world in which Moyes keeps us up and then moves upstairs and we bring in a more dynamic coach. That would be tolerable.

Can’t see that personally.
Think Moyes sees himself as a manager (rather than a coach or DoF)
I forsee issues with whoever the DoF is if /when he’s appointed as he will think he doesn’t need one.
Ultimately he’s too old school and sees himself like his idol SAF (albeit the the Aldi middle aisle version)

Over all, human nature suggests he will come back and be influenced by his 10 years here and see this as a return to that, when the club, fan base and ownership have moved on.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Some of our fans are nuts. This is the most sensible appointment we could make. We have to stay in the PL this season. Our fans just never learn, always wanting the big shiny names, then moan when it doesn’t work out. If this deal is 6 months then it’s perfect.

The Freidkins list probably looked something like this:

A manager who is available now and wants to come to the club in its present state

A manager with proven record of relegation battles

A manager with recent experience of the PL (can’t risk relegation)

A manager who will command respect in the dressing and put out whatever fires have popped up there, can’t afford the players revolting against the new manager at this point

A manager who after keeping us up has a proven record of moving teams up the table into European qualification on a tight financial budget

A manager who can utilise a squad where most of the quality is predominately in the defensive players

Moyes ticks all the boxes and is a good choice. I’d have loved us to have got a Mancini Allegri Sarri Mourinho quality of manager but they’re not joining bottom half teams with no money.

 

[Victus]

Least they are moving fast, used to Everton taking ages to appoint a new person.

 

[DanEFC92]

 

[COYB75]

Some of our fans are nuts. This is the most sensible appointment we could make. We have to stay in the PL this season. Our fans just never learn, always wanting the big shiny names, then moan when it doesn’t work out. If this deal is 6 months then it’s perfect.

To be fair we've only had one big shiny name in Don Carlo. I wouldn't apply that moniker to any of our other managers. He did absolutely fine until Real came calling and no manager would turn them down.