Today’s Football 2020/21 Season

[BlueStevie35]

If you was at Goodison the night Big Dunc scored the winner against Utd where literally the ground was physically rocking and VAR pulled it up as Dunc's boot lace was offside - if you then turned around and said thats a fair call then for me football is dead to me.

Same with Carsley’s Derby winner, VAR might have ruled it out these days for Dudek being visually impaired behind a line of players

 

[TheBigIguana]

If you was at Goodison the night Big Dunc scored the winner against Utd where literally the ground was physically rocking and VAR pulled it up as Dunc's boot lace was offside - if you then turned around and said thats a fair call then for me football is dead to me.

I just feel like if you have rules you should follow them. Maybe I'm weird.

 

[Nymzee]

But you can play it without having your arm bent 90 degrees at the elbow with your hand away from your body and those started being given only for people to complain anyway. Maybe an in between is necessary but where the rule is now isn't good. Defenders get away with a lot and I think it is more intentional than people want to acknowledge.

The more I read your posts the more I wonder if you’ve ever actually played football before. The bold part is something we’re all taught from a young age when defending and it is also natural. Facing up a striker with your arm’s down by your side just isn’t what you do.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

The PGMOL say not a clear and obvious error on them missing the foul on Watkins. lol

 

[Kenshin]

The problem with var is not the fact it exists.

It's when it takes minutes to decide (disallow) a goal for the silliest of distances that it fails.

It's meant to back the referee up and pick up on things he has missed. The minute you stop a game for 2-5 minutes to determine a decision you are breaking the game completely.

It's the death of football as we know it. As the villa goal proves the other week when he put it in the top corner, or these armpit offsides, it's removing the flow of the game to the extent it's dying.

 

[Minimeister]

Same with Carsley’s Derby winner, VAR might have ruled it out these days for Dudek being visually impaired behind a line of players

This modern football rubbish deserves VAR to be fair. It's a different game now. You might as well kill the one thing that was enjoyable about football, being able to celebrate a goal.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

I just feel like if you have rules you should follow them. Maybe I'm weird.

We all know what offside is but how far does the rule go before it becomes farcical?

Like if your foot is offside fine call it as if the player score its a "clear and obvious" error had the ref not flagged it off... but if the scorers ponytail or hand is offside then surely what advantage is that giving the attacker to make it "clear and obvious?"

Thats my issue with the laws/VAR the Premier League sold it to us all as fixing clear and obvious errors - having to draw multiple lines and checking 10 screens and different angles for 5 minutes isnt clear and obvious and isn't what we were sold when they introduced it.

If they had told us all this before it was introduced no one would have wanted it - not one club or fanbase and thats the problem if you have to mislead someone in order for them to buy your product then it cant be a very good product.

I bet you can look back at some of the most famous goals in history and using VAR tech and the current law you could wipe off many of them for a nose offside here or a toenail offside there - but all that does is ruin the game that we all fell in love with.

The game has already become so commercialised and tainted that the last thing we needed was this suckling what little joy left the proper fans had watching your boyhood heroes blast in a late winning goal against your rivals.

If the RS goal against us had been the opposite way I would have been livid - absolutely livid to have seen that chalked off denying us that long awaited win over them - thats not football for me.

 

[number4.]

The problem with var is not the fact it exists.

It's when it takes minutes to decide (disallow) a goal for the silliest of distances that it fails.

It's meant to back the referee up and pick up on things he has missed. The minute you stop a game for 2-5 minutes to determine a decision you are breaking the game completely.

It's the death of football as we know it. As the villa goal proves the other week when he put it in the top corner, or these armpit offsides, it's removing the flow of the game to the extent it's dying.

this is a good summary

Things that would improve it....
1) Offsides - Draw one line from the Defenders last point & if it remains unclear after that give the benefit to the attacker
2) All other decisions made by on pitch ref; with VAR official only allowed instruct them watch something.
3) Ref can only review in real time - no slow motion

 

[DanB90]

Mate. A guy has just had a goal chalked off because his arm was forward in keeping his balance when he was being fouled.

I’ve not seen it mate, but if he was being fouled, VAR should’ve given a pen? This is another inconsistency with it.

 

[kenada_blue]

I don't dismiss ideas based on where someone is from. So whatever, if you've got good NFL ideas I'm all ears.

What people seem to miss is that offside/onside is a basic error. It isn't a judgment call. You are or aren't.

It's now a judgement call based on analysis, changes to rules, and minute details using technology. So it's not a clear on or offside debate.

Goes back to the arguement that the technology is taking away from on the pitch officials rather than helping them. Linesman are completely redundant now.

 

[Nymzee]

Biggest shitshow of VAR recently was Bamford’s goal ruled offside because he pointed to where he wanted the throughball lol basically penalising good forward play.

 

[kenada_blue]

The spitter just pointing out that we made Philips look like Pirlo

 

[visitingholte]

I honestly don't know what a clear and obvious error is now apparently. Didn't think the two pens overturned last week were "clear and obvious" and thought that Ogbonna's headlock on Watkins would've been clear.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

When you have VAR, they are all 'clear and obvious.'

 

[TheBigIguana]

We all know what offside is but how far does the rule go before it becomes farcical?

Like if your foot is offside fine call it as if the player score its a "clear and obvious" error had the ref not flagged it off... but if the scorers ponytail or hand is offside then surely what advantage is that giving the attacker to make it "clear and obvious?"

Thats my issue with the laws/VAR the Premier League sold it to us all as fixing clear and obvious errors - having to draw multiple lines and checking 10 screens and different angles for 5 minutes isnt clear and obvious and isn't what we were sold when they introduced it.

If they had told us all this before it was introduced no one would have wanted it - not one club or fanbase and thats the problem if you have to mislead someone in order for them to buy your product then it cant be a very good product.

I bet you can look back at some of the most famous goals in history and using VAR tech and the current law you could wipe off many of them for a nose offside here or a toenail offside there - but all that does is ruin the game that we all fell in love with.

The game has already become so commercialised and tainted that the last thing we needed was this suckling what little joy left the proper fans had watching your boyhood heroes blast in a late winning goal against your rivals.

If the RS goal against us had been the opposite way I would have been livid - absolutely livid to have seen that chalked off denying us that long awaited win over them - thats not football for me.

I just don't agree that the game can't be fun and entertaining AND follow the rules as they are set out.

I don't share the opinion that moments such as last minute winners should just be allowed to count because it is fun and exciting. I mean if the ref puts the flag up at the time it is fine but on replay it isn't? That doesn't make sense to me. We could just not have rules at that point.