Today's Football - 2023/2024 Season

[neil999]

Has any ref ever been to the monitor and then said, no, I was right first time, my onfield decision stands?

Yes, incredibly in the Derby when we got a penalty and it stood!!!

 

[Cool_Blue]

The game is becoming unwatchable because of this. Surely we don't want these nothing incidents to result in penalties and decide matches.

100+ minutes footie matches, nonsense.

 

[Bohemian Toffee]

Yeah, if that's the advert for football, I'm not buying.

Free to view here in the Czech Republic, but genuinely, it's a terrible product. VAR alone is enough to kill it, but all the other bits add up too.

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

I’m more referring to situations where a defender is pulling out of a challenge entirely but the attacker tries to get the legs tangled anyway to buy the pen. In that situation it’s the attacker deliberately initiating contact but all too often it works. It gets called “clever” but really it should just be a foul against the attacker.

I take your point mate but I don’t agree. It’s a much, much quicker game now than it was even a few years ago, and quick attacking players take advantage of defenders making lazy or poorly timed challenges. Horrible when it goes against you, but it’s just the nature of the beast these days.

I know he never got many for us, but we signed one of the pioneers of the art in Andy Johnson.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I take your point mate but I don’t agree. It’s a much, much quicker game now than it was even a few years ago, and quick attacking players take advantage of defenders making lazy or poorly timed challenges. Horrible when it goes against you, but it’s just the nature of the beast these days.

I know he never got many for us, but we signed one of the pioneers of the art in Andy Johnson.

VAR means there is zero consistency in the decision making

These soft fouls shouldn't be given and the game would be enormously better if they weren't.

 

[Cool_Blue]

VAR means there is zero consistency in the decision making

These soft fouls shouldn't be given and the game would be enormously better if they weren't.

It’s ridiculous, players who’ve hardly been touched going down like they’ve been hit by a train

 

[Sharpies volley]

I don't want soft fouls to be given inside or outside the box. The bar at which a free kick is given is now absolutely any contact, no matter how minimal. Why are refs not letting the game flow? In what way is the game enhanced by this?

I don't think it is enhanced in any way mate and I agree with you that soft fouls are given, but if there given outside the box they've got to be given inside. I can't be doin with these Co commentators saying "it's not enough for a pen" and two minutes later, less of a foul is committed in the centre circle and the same dim wit will say, "it's definately a foul." WTAF.

 

[Charro]

That last one is a penalty.

Don’t know what all the fuss is about.

 

[TheBigIguana]

That last one is a penalty.

Don’t know what all the fuss is about.

I’ve just watched it for the first time after seeing all the reaction and I’m thoroughly confused why that’s controversial at all

 

[Littlesue]

That last one is a penalty.

Don’t know what all the fuss is about.

I suggested that on a West Midland Footy site and there seems to be some sort of fatwa out for me now so if I disappear it's been nice knowing you all.

 

[maccavennie]

Yes, incredibly in the Derby when we got a penalty and it stood!!!

Apparently he didn't go to the screen checking for the pen. He went to see if he should have sent off Arnold.

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

VAR means there is zero consistency in the decision making

These soft fouls shouldn't be given and the game would be enormously better if they weren't.

I detest VAR and think it is in no way fit for purpose, so you'll get no argument from me on that score.

I have seen a bunch more replays this morning, though, and I maintain that last one was enough of a pen to be given in real time, let alone after review. Doesn't matter if the player goes down easily, a trip is a trip. Defender took out his standing leg very clearly so it's a pen. If that exact same scenario plays out on one of our attackers, I absolutely guarantee you're in here fuming if it wasn't given.

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

Two controversial pens.
Yellow for a head butt,possible red.
No 2nd yellow for wolves pen.
No wonder wolves are fuming .

 

[HowardsWay]

Two controversial pens.
Yellow for a head butt,possible red.
No 2nd yellow for wolves pen.
No wonder wolves are fuming .

Apparently the ref has admitted to Gary O'Neil the first pen should not have been given.
Then you have Wilson theatrically diving into the challenge for the second.
Both pens are debatable but what's not debatable is the double standard of "clear and obvious."

The first, the ref gave the decision to Fulham and VAR deemed there was no clear and obvious error by the match official despite the fact that one camera angle showed Semedo touching the ball. Then the ref ways play on for the second until VAR interferes. Again, a similar decision to the first but this time it is deemed a clear and obvious error although you can clearly see Wilson falling to the ground before he got to the ball.

That's four penalties given against Wolves in a month and every single one of them was highly debatable and apologies issued to Wolves in 3 of them. Add that to the other fiasco's such as the non penalty at Man Utd and you can see why some teams feel the odds are against them.

 

[Billy Dean]