Tom Cleverley

[ToffeeTim]

Send him to rot in the reserves.

Or SELL

 

[evertony]

But he's just really, really crap.

International caps and stacks of Premier league games at United, Everton and Villa prove otherwise. I'd love to see him on a pitch against some of you who consider him 'crap'....he'd make you look even more foolish. True, he's not Lionel Messi but to have a top level career and play for managers like SAF and RK he really can't be crap. And before you say SAF sold him....remember who else he sold.

 

[evertony]

Honestly, he played well today and was decent against Palace.

He's been bloody awful for us some times, and if everyone else is fit and in form, then he shouldn't be a regular starter, but if he hadn't been signed by Martinez, was dog ugly as opposed to being a bit of a pretty boy, didn't have a drop dead gorgeous missus and wasn't paid a fortune for kicking a ball about then I don't think we'd see quite so much obvious jealousy.

If he plays against Burnley and is poor then I'll be in this thread saying so, but I'm not going to sl@g him off when he's played well just become some biffs* on the internet think it's trendy to do so.


*I'm not totally sure what a biff is, but I like the sound of it so I'm going to start using it.

Spot on Wooly

 

[hullefc]

Cleverley did his defensive duties fine yesterday as did the other midfielders and defenders. The game plan was to roll up the sleeves and battle and he did that as well as anyone.

 

[Shibbywiggles]

If we would have signed 2-3 of our supposed midfield targets over the summer he would be nowhere near our starting eleven. We didn't though and he's played ok the last couple of games, hope we buy better in January though.

 

[Toffee-nerd]

Cleverley did his defensive duties fine yesterday as did the other midfielders and defenders. The game plan was to roll up the sleeves and battle and he did that as well as anyone.

That's all he can do though. He's not a very dynamic player, can't really pass, not particularly mobile, can't beat a man, rarely puts a tackle in, turd goal scoring record. McCarthy offers more in that role. He did alright yesterday but he's definitely one of our more limited players. He's come in and offered some back up to our first 11 which was probably the primary reason for bringing him in, when we have injuries etc but going forward if we are to get to where we want to be he won't be a part of the squad for much longer.

 

[eamo]

Agree with the last few posts. We all know he's not the best but u can't deny his commitment and for me that matters most. Just like everton really...

 

[orly]

I can't decide whether to get seriously drunk, paralytic drunk or terminally drunk the day he leaves Everton.

 

[The Mighty Quint]

I don't want him picked ahead of McCarthy again, he was absolute garbage yesterday, didn't think he was even on the pitch first half.

If we want to press more McCarty is your man out of these two all day long.

 

[Blue Cheese]

Don't hate him, just don't think he's good enough and adds nothing. Unless of course you are parking the bus then yey he can run around a lot.

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

Finally figured out what he's best at; being the first one to join the goal scorer in the celebrations, he absolutely wazzes over out of nowhere and is the first to jump on them. Not enough to keep him in the team unfortunately.

 

[orly]

Finally figured out what he's best at; being the first one to join the goal scorer in the celebrations, he absolutely wazzes over out of nowhere and is the first to jump on them. Not enough to keep him in the team unfortunately.

Bit like him constantly standing next to Unsworth in the club released photos of training before the last game of last season, the Snivelley ratfink suckup

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Going to be very interesting on here if Koeman starts him against Burnley.

 

[Dymak]

Going to be very interesting on here if Koeman starts him against Burnley.

Players like McCarthy and Cleverley can get by in a central midfield three, but are complete liabilities when placed in a central midfield two. I can see either of them starting if he keeps yesterday's formation and neither of them if he returns to having a second striker.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Players like McCarthy and Cleverley can get by in a central midfield three, but are complete liabilities when placed in a central midfield two. I can see either of them starting if he keeps yesterday's formation and neither of them if he returns to having a second striker.

Would Like to think against Burnley he doesn't go with the 3, saying that though, he did against Palace at home.