Yannick Bolasie

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Really enjoyed your work there.

Not only did it remind me how right i was to call for calm and suggest he would be a good signing, I got to see how wrong some other people were. There were a few having mini meltdowns @Tubey

We overpaid for him. He's not worth £30m. He's a £15-20m player. Which is all I said.

Get your facts right.
 
they are all pacy and can give you a threat down the wing, but with the exception of Geri (who has a decent cross that he doesn't use enough) they are goal scorers 1st and providers last. Barkley is also more of Lampard/Cahill style finishing mid as well and we had the tendency of all these guys looking for goals with no one to provide service and/or space. Its not easy to convince a 20-30M striker to come to an 11th place side and then tell that guy to have a seat and/or do Okizaki-like grunt work as a 2nd fiddle for Rom for at least 1 season.

I was happy at throwing money at guys we need (williams, bolasie) instead of big money Marital/DePay like guys who could be really good someday. This side had talent the past 2 years. We just needed a couple pieces to make it whole. We addressed a lot over the transfer window except for No.2 striker and keeper and we have might have just gotten lucky with the keeper position.

Its pretty well known that we need depth at striker (and perhaps a No.1 next season) but I can't of anyone available and going with just Rom is a risk (though when we lost him for a month a couple years back Geri stepped up). Let's check back in January. Our league position might look a lot better to type of players who just feigned interest in us for a new contract. There might be some No.2s avail like Ulloa, Berhahino, Hernandez, Pelle etc. Or maybe we just revisit our courtship of Yarmalenko if they are out of the C-league.
Ok, I see what you're saying about the distinction between Bolasie and the wide men we had here. But is it true? Over his PL career he's created 16 assists total...roughly 4 per season.

Hopefully that improves with better players with more intelligent movement around him.
 
It actually wasn't.

Whether the revisionists want to or not, that first season cannot be expunged from the record books.

That accounts for 33% of his time here.

The European venture was an absolute delight until his brain fart with Alcaraz in the latter stages.

And even up to the Christmas of last season, Everton were terrific to watch.

The last three or four months of his reign were horrendous, no doubt about that and the sacking was both justified and inevitable, but the whole three years were not as bad as some of our friends would have you believe.
They were tho, first season can't argue with that but whats the point in playing great football if you don't actually get anything for it? Would you rather win 1-0 in a scruffy game or lose 5-3 in a great game of football? Mourinho has built a career on winning titles and Champs League with exactly this style.
 

This is a wind up, right?

You are trying to out Dave, Dave?

We played well once last season in the league, away to the saint mutants.


Sorry, maybe I read your post wrong.

You said "four wins at Goodison last season" and after every game you "walked out promising not to come back next week".

No....I have just checked and that indeed is what you said.

And I merely asked if you felt like that after warching a number of those games in which we were very good.

You must be jolly hard to please if that is the case :p
 
They were tho, first season can't argue with that but whats the point in playing great football if you don't actually get anything for it? Would you rather win 1-0 in a scruffy game or lose 5-3 in a great game of football? Mourinho has built a career on winning titles and Champs League with exactly this style.


You say you can't "argue" with the first season but that is what you are doing.

The Martinez years were not a "complete wasteland" and to say that they were is to attempt to revise history.

That first season cannot be dismissed merely to bolster an anti Martinez narrative.
 
We overpaid for him. He's not worth £30m. He's a £15-20m player. Which is all I said.

Get your facts right.
Not sure what the conversation was before but everyone overpays for most players these days, Pogba £90m? Jordan Ibe £15m? I guess he is what the market is dictating at the mo. The only exception is Gana ;)
 
It actually wasn't.

Whether the revisionists want to or not, that first season cannot be expunged from the record books.

That accounts for 33% of his time here.

The European venture was an absolute delight until his brain fart with Alcaraz in the latter stages.

And even up to the Christmas of last season, Everton were terrific to watch.

The last three or four months of his reign were horrendous, no doubt about that and the sacking was both justified and inevitable, but the whole three years were not as bad as some of our friends would have you believe.

They were not befitting of our club, it was akin to watching a horror movie.
 

Sorry, maybe I read your post wrong.

You said "four wins at Goodison last season" and after every game you "walked out promising not to come back next week".

No....I have just checked and that indeed is what you said.

And I merely asked if you felt like that after warching a number of those games in which we were very good.

You must be jolly hard to please if that is the case :p

Honestly mate, I dont recall us being very good.

The City game, the Chelsea game, Southampton away, ermmm, thats about it, my memory is bad at the best of times and its possible ive missed 1 or 2 games off, but I dont consider a win playing well.

I personally dont think we have played well this season, we have scored some good goals and we have defended well, but the football hasnt been great, ask me how much I care tho, ask me!!!!
 
Not sure what the conversation was before but everyone overpays for most players these days, Pogba £90m? Jordan Ibe £15m? I guess he is what the market is dictating at the mo. The only exception is Gana ;)

And that's all I said. We overpaid.

I still don't rate Bolasie by the way. From what I saw at Palace, he can be as impressive as he's looked so far, but absolutely anonymous too. Far too early to come to a conclusion either way - we're looking at December/January before we can say he's "worth" £30m.

We can without a doubt say that Gana is worth £7m right now though, on the other hand.
 
You say you can't "argue" with the first season but that is what you are doing.

The Martinez years were not a "complete wasteland" and to say that they were is to attempt to revise history.

That first season cannot be dismissed merely to bolster an anti Martinez narrative.
No maybe not but it also can't be used to bolster a pro Martinez narrative, 2/3rds of his time at Everton was a complete disaster, surely we can agree on that?
 
I've mentioned a couple of times he's got Coleman and Baines way more disciplined and their primary objective is to defend. winning breeds confidence and in time we will hopefully see more goals like Coleman scored yesterday. It's about knowing when to go forward.

Bolasie is a great out ball and basically gains us 50 yards if we are under pressure. Replace him with Del and the same would happen, or with Lennon or Mirallas and an in form Barkley can do the same. the important thing imo is there's a mixture to how we are scoring the goals and yeah it's a work in progress, but winning games along the way is a massive way to get everyone on board
Yeah, I accept that. But if you listen to Koemans interviews you can hear him say that he's purposely playing deep and narrow to get back to clean sheets for confidence purposes. My point is that style wise atm (outside of the pleasure of seeing these players actually rolling up their sleeves and working for a change) it can lead to a situation where we fail to get a lot of bodies in the opposition half other than by belting it to Bolasie and backing him up if he can hold onto the ball long enough.

That's a limiting way of playing and I feel sure RK will want to add more strings to our bow.
 
Yeah, I accept that. But if you listen to Koemans interviews you can hear him say that he's purposely playing deep and narrow to get back to clean sheets for confidence purposes. My point is that style wise atm (outside of the pleasure of seeing these players actually rolling up their sleeves and working for a change) it can lead to a situation where we fail to get a lot of bodies in the opposition half other than by belting it to Bolasie and backing him up if he can hold onto the ball long enough.

That's a limiting way of playing and I feel sure RK will want to add more strings to our bow.

I'm sure Ron will as well mate. Hopefully we are a much more attractive proposition to players come January as well and we can really strengthen the squad with another couple top quality additions.
 

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