If I was in charge, there would be about 80% less penalties for handball, and the game would be far better. But until the rules are fixed, we need consistency.
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Exactly. There's a case for both to be penalties, and there's a case for neither to be penalties. Consistency would be much better, as we so often appear to be on the wrong end of both sides.
If I was in charge we'd be top of the table with 66 points so far.
It’s 100% a penalty, yet again shame on the media for not even talking about it. I drove to work this morning and not a single mention of it on Talksport, if that’s Liverpool it is spoken about every 5 minutes. It’s a blanket ban against Everton until we get relegated.
I also think Beto had a good shout. When he was kicked as he swung for the ball. Any knowledgable player goes down screaming and gets the pen. He was too honest.
I also think Beto had a good shout. When he was kicked as he swung for the ball. Any knowledgable player goes down screaming and gets the pen. He was too honest.
Jacko93
Player Valuation: £35m
I wouldn't want to see it give against us, but, that's the mess they've made of the rules unfortunately. Onanas hand was in a more natural position than Robinsons, in neither case was the ball on a goal bound trajectory (not that that's a rule anyway), Onana has less time to react than Robinson, neither were intentional.
The problem is, that in the case of the law as it is written, Robinsons handball was more of a penalty that Onanas, yet one was given, one wasn't.
Jacko93
Player Valuation: £35m
Just out of interest, if a ball is being crossed in, hits an opposition hand and drops directly to an attacking player, that it wouldn't have dropped to originally who has a shot on target that the keeper saves. Based upon what you've said above, is that a penalty, or is it no penalty because it actually provided them with a better opportunity?
EFCINLONDON
Player Valuation: £950k
Neither onana or last night should be penalties. They've made a complete mess of 'the rules'
Well that's the advantage rule that we see applied outside the box all the time. No idea how it works inside the penalty area.
Given that nobody in our team can actually hit the target I wouldn’t worry about it. The only person ruing that decision is the fella in his canoe on the Thames waiting for one of our players to sky the ball over the stadium and in to his mitts.
terryefc
Player Valuation: £8m
Can't believe this discussion. It happened quickly so the ref didn;t see it clearly. But - VAR should have spotted it and his arm is miles from his body and it should have been referred for the ref to review again. If he had have reviewed again he gives a penalty, 100%. WE were robbed again - but as has been said - it's only Everton isn't it.
I don’t know what game you watched but the ball came off the bar and the players outstretched arm hit the ball. That’s hand to ball and it’s a penalty. The player did not have his arms down by his sides. It was almost as if he was lifting his arms up to put on his head in despair as the ball was about to go in. He then hit the back which slowed the ball and allowed another defended to clear. It’s 100% a penalty and anyone that thinks it wasn’t is wrong.
So our manager is wrong, the commentators are wrong, lots of other Evertonians I've spoken to are wrong.
The play is running back to his goal, you move your arms when you run (if you knew that) and the ball last second smacked the crossbar and bounced back. He didn't have time to move them anywhere - people don't run with their arms glued to their sides.
Be better. Support clearer calls.
linderoth
Player Valuation: £225k
In what alternate universe was that attempt by City goal bound!?
linderoth
Player Valuation: £225k
"Deliberate" handball is nonsense too.
That requires you to know the player's thought process at the time?
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