The return of David Moyes

[matty1878]

You made up for me now @GrandOldTeam

training monday game tuesday?

 

[DualityNSNO]

People moaning about Moyes having an inferiority complex away to the big 4 when we’ve just come off the back of a fella that’s instilled an inferiority complex against Bournemouth and Southampton

I personally would've liked someone who hasn't got such a complex to begin with but maybe it's just me.

 

[ElGato]

However it won't be that, it will be 4-2-3-1.

As it has been, for the last 20 years or so.

I'm sure in that 2020/21 season at West Ham (when they finished 6th) he tended to favour a 3-4-2-1 (5-4-1 off the ball) with two tens/second strikers (Bowen and Fornals/Lingaard) in behind a big No.9, with attacking wing backs (Coufal and Cresswell/Masuaku) supplying crosses and one of the central midfielders (Soucek) attacking the box as well.

That being said, I've just trawled through some of the old line ups and I think towards the back end of the season he basically went back to 4-2-3-1.

 

[jinkyali]

training monday game tuesday?

Training tomorrow I reckon

 

[JLW]

He knows the club

So does Duncan Ferguson and David Unsworth

 

[matty1878]

Training tomorrow I reckon

needs to see how crap we are asap!

 

[Saint Domingo]

But no other manager is getting ridiculous comparisons to achievements he had with a far better squad he managed over a decade ago.

Only the Moyes fans are repeating this as if it has any bearing at all on what the next six months look like.

We want a manager than can use the players we’ve got now and then develop us further in future seasons don’t we? Moyes can do that.

It’s in response to people saying he can’t play good football. He can with better players, but that’s the same for literally every manager.

If people wanted a manager that would get this lot playing top football then the list of possible candidates is absolutely minimal and I doubt they’d ever want to come to Everton.

 

[MikeH72]

He didn't - Mourinho "brought" it to Chelsea in their hilariously dominant years, but semantics, I'm on your side of this argument anyway.

More of a problem is he's not gone to anything improved or different since then, but I've been told here it's due to no fault of his own and wage restrictions and something else or the other, so that's a moot point apparently.

Yeah mate, he was only one of the top paid managers around at the time as well, but we still couldn't get a decent free transfer, while everyone around us could, almost as if we never tried.

Mourinho didn’t manage either Pienaar or Baines mate so I’m not sure where you’ve got that from. I’m not saying Moyes invented wingers combining with full backs as a tactic.

 

[MikeH72]

I personally would've liked someone who hasn't got such a complex to begin with but maybe it's just me.

I just want someone that will keep us in the Premier League for the time being and then we’ll go from there.

 

[Saint Domingo]

You know Moyes appointment has half a chance of working when guys like @MikeH72 , @Saint Domingo and @Kev The Rat are in agreement.

Not even Henry Kissinger could get those 3 to agree

It is time to heal mate

 

[Drico]

Ah, yes, the "gets us" shouts last heard for fan-friendly Frank.

 

[riddick]

I still just don't get how Moyes is on the radar of TFG. Like, I get it, he has worked with the club in the past. But theres almost nobody left from the BK shambles of an error. So what pull does Moyes have for TFG?

 

[DualityNSNO]

I'm sure in that 2020/21 season at West Ham (when they finished 6th) he tended to favour a 3-4-2-1 (5-4-1 off the ball) with two tens/second strikers (Bowen and Fornals/Lingaard) in behind a big No.9, with attacking wing backs (Coufal and Cresswell/Masuaku) supplying crosses and one of the central midfielders (Soucek) attacking the box as well.

That being said, I've just trawled through some of the old line ups and I think towards the back end of the season he basically went back to 4-2-3-1.

What I mean though, essentially - default is 4-2-3-1, get it to the wings, cross it.

Is it pretty/innovative? Nah, not really.
HOWEVER, it works/worked under him - you had late arrivals in the box, the AM joining (Soucek in their case, Fellaini/Cahill in ours, etc.), it was clearly a worked at plan and it worked, which is fine.

It's 500000 times any plan of attack Dyche has ever had, but it's unimaginative to say the least.

 

[Saint Domingo]

So he should be offered a long term deal then?

Not necessarily, give him 18 months maybe with a one year option, but if he’s kept us up and then moves us on next season we coups trigger the option, if he moves us on again then the club could decide to extend the deal. If he keeps us up then doesn’t move us on we could terminate.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Training tomorrow I reckon

I think I heard the team are getting a couple of days off