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Gilbert.. said:
The post never said that.
You were willing to gamble Evertons safety on a terrible manager. Just admit it. Theres no shame in it.
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Its perspective isn't it, another way to look at it is a group of fans went out of there way to destabilize the club and create division when we were at our lowest as a club historically and holsitically, many i fear will never recover from that.

To someone of a different perspective you (generally) are always the enemy of the club.

You got to love polorasiation.
 

Neiler said:
Its perspective isn't it, another way to look at it is a group of fans went out of there way to destabilize the club and create division when we were at our lowest as a club holsitically, many i fear will never recover from that.

To someone of a different perspective you (generally) are always the enemy of the club.

You got to love bipartisanship.
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Wow. Now thats a new angle lol. So when we're going away to grounds like Bournemouth and not having a single shot on target, questioning the manager is destabilizing the club.
I said i'd keep this soley on the football.
I'll stick to that.
 
Gilbert.. said:
Wow. Now thats a new angle lol. So when we're going away to grounds like Bournemouth and not having a single shot on target, questioning the manager is destabilizing the club.
I said i'd keep this soley on the football.
I'll stick to that.
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I see the polaisation based on two things micro and macro analysis.

One side see just what is in front of them and want the instant gratification of being "entertained" - that's the standard position - as per your post above.

The second recognise the macro systemic analysis of being in a period risk of and austerity - that threatened the wellbeing of the club holsitically, they accommodated the "cut your cloth" accordingly measures to manage the austerity and preserve the club. In a sense having to take the medicine and run the anti virus.

Its that simple really.

Which of the above was best for the club.........
 
Gilbert.. said:
Are you suggesting if no new owners had come in we continued with the less than a point per game ratio. The less than a goal per game ratio. 1 away win in over a calender year ratio.....
That logic seems a bit flawed. relying on the 3 promoted teams to struggle each year to ensure Evertons survival because "nobody could do any better"
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Hardly a gamble mate.
I was saying reset in the summer. Not midseason under the direction of non existing owners, where the likely hood of getting a decent manager with the best interests of Everton at heart and not just a short time paycheck would have been minimal. And if that decision was wrong it could have been a catastrophe. That was the real gamble... gambling the future of the club... on short-term emotion... at the point... so Brexit.

I would have taken that gamble.... and still been right... we would have been safe and secure. Because in that gamble I would have figured that we would likely have picked up more points and therefore be comfortably above the bottom 3.

As it happened, we are all in a happy place
 

Neiler said:
Its perspective isn't it, another way to look at it is a group of fans went out of there way to destabilize the club and create division when we were at our lowest as a club historically and holsitically, many i fear will never recover from that.

To someone of a different perspective you (generally) are always the enemy of the club.

You got to love polorasiation.
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twoblue said:
Hardly a gamble mate.
I was saying reset in the summer. Not midseason under the direction of non existing owners, where the likely hood of getting a decent manager with the best interests of Everton at heart and not just a short time paycheck would have been minimal. And if that decision was wrong it could have been a catastrophe. That was the real gamble... gambling the future of the club... on short-term emotion... at the point... so Brexit.

I would have taken that gamble.... and still been right... we would have been safe and secure. Because in that gamble I would have figured that we would likely have picked up more points and therefore be comfortably above the bottom 3.

As it happened, we are all in a happy place
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Let's also not forget that Sean Dyche was never getting sacked until new owners were in.

That was the reality of the situation that a lot didn't want to accept.
 
Neiler said:
I see the polaisation based on two things micro and macro analysis.

One side see just what is in front of them and want the instant gratification of being "entertained" - that's the standard position - as per your post above.

The second recognise the macro systemic analysis of being in a period of austerity - that threatened the wellbeing of the club holsitically, they accommodated the "cut your cloth" accordingly measures to manage the austerity and preserve the club. In a sense having to take the medicine and run the anti virus.

Its that simple really.

Which of the above was best for the club.........
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No. Just a team that was competing to win a game and not set up for a 0-0 at best from kick off.

You're over complicating it.
 

Neiler said:
One side see just what is in front of them and want the instant gratification of being "entertained" - that's the standard position - as per your post above.
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Today on: "I will keep repeating the things no one has ever really said".

People disliked the literal worst football likely ever witnessed at Goodison, and up there for worst in the Prem, fans leaving the stadium, fans not even going to the game because of that, and of course the logical conclusion isn't that the football was terrible, but "it was the fans".

Jesus wept
 

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