Mr Happy
Player Valuation: £15m
Sure that Tim is here for a wind up
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bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
For me it's partly that he's a local lad, but moreso he's had one proper season, and yup he's not the finished article yet by a mile, but you look across this team and he's the one player when he gets on the ball that gets bums off seats, pace, great workrate, can go past very good players with ease, we won't be able to bring in somebody with those qualities who also has the potential to improve (at under 21 level for England he's shown great end product).
So we sell him for 50m say then 20m of that goes on a McNeil type, and two 26yo strikers from France arrive for 15m a pop.
You as a club cannot keep selling the few players you have that bring something different and expect to be anything than a very average team with no potential to be anything but that.
Last season literally Richy and Gordon where the only two who when they got on the ball tried to do anything with it, if we end up selling both in the same window then we've literally given up trying.
I don't want to get personal and I didn't mean it to come across like that. But when I see someone arguing we should accept a significantly lower bid than Chelsea's opening bid, then I'm going to call that out as a stupid post.
Why should we not get the best deal possible when the buyer seems to be willing to spend astronomical amounts of money?
Why am I on a wind up?
I said a post saying we should sell for far less than Chelsea offered was stupid.
Do you think we should counter Chelsea's offer of 40m by saying we only want 30???
I'm reading stuff in this thread that defies logic
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Yet Chelsea, Newcastle and spuds three teams with infinitely better scouting and recruitment then we have in recent years are all thinking he's worth 30-50m+
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
This seems more emotional than backed with logic. I'm glad Everton didn't just take the 40-43m whatever and if they don't increase their bid he stays and I'm comfortable with that. Make no mistake this isn't just getting shot because we need the cash, but if people are going to offer way over market value then we have to listen.
There is no given that Gordon goes on to be a great player, he could easily become another Gray. He might get injured thid season or just fall out of love with the game due to the pressure. If any of that happens the fanbase would be up in arms for not taking the cash when we had a chance and put forward as another reason why we so incompetent.
lancs blue
Player Valuation: £35m
coleman=quality
Player Valuation: £15m
I’d take £50m and Broja don’t want batshuayi tbf at this stage of his career and the position Everton are in £50m is very good money and we simply can’t turn that down.
Mr Happy
Player Valuation: £15m
Generally, just to incite a reaction.
I don't think anyone would accept a lower offer. Let's be clear this is all about FFP and not so much about ambition.
But your constant negativity is borderline wind up !
lancs blue
Player Valuation: £35m
Breaking news. Billy has picked up his dinner suit from the dry cleaners
Deal on
Deal on
what we say “i’d take this n that”
we don’t know what’s off n on
if it’s BK doing it we will sell Ag for 21 mill
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I've wanted to post on Gordon for a bit. It's been a bit of a mad couple of weeks for him.
There seems to be an unusually high animosity towards him, that borders on the ridiculous. 12 month ago he was a lad who didn't get into a Preston team (albeit partially down to a new manger and position change) and was really on the fringes of the team. 12 months on, he won our player of the year scored soem critical goals and in a team full of players who at times threw the towel in worked his absolute socks off for the team, irrespective of his ability.
It seems like people have really made their minds up that he is going to be some sort of scapegoat before the season started. I have no idea why. He hasn't cost us a huge fee, he isn't taking up huge wages and he has shown the sort of attitude we would all want to see.
The first two games he has been fine. On both the games the commentators (impartial) have commented how well he has done and how he needs extra help. One of the teams we have played against have subsequently bid over 40m. Yet some people would have you believe he was poor the last 2 games. You throw in that he was playing out of position in those two games, for the good of the team and it gives a wider context of those performances.
He is clearly a very good player for us, when played in position, and arguably out of position, or best attacking outlet. He was inches away from scoring our first goal of the season and being the only player who has scored for us.
There is a wider question about at what point you sell any player. I don't think any club can be so brazen as to not have a figure it sells a player, and honestly a club in our position can't. A bid of around 50m fulfills that in my view. I suspect it may come in, and theclub would have to strongly consider it.
If it doesn't go through though, none of that should be taken out on Gordon. It's not the lad himself's fault that people have a certain value on him. He's not the one robbing you of 45m or whatever. he is just a lad, who played an important role in keeping us up, and probably making an enormous profit for the club. That probably needs to be factored in, in some of the evaluations that we have seen.
There seems to be an unusually high animosity towards him, that borders on the ridiculous. 12 month ago he was a lad who didn't get into a Preston team (albeit partially down to a new manger and position change) and was really on the fringes of the team. 12 months on, he won our player of the year scored soem critical goals and in a team full of players who at times threw the towel in worked his absolute socks off for the team, irrespective of his ability.
It seems like people have really made their minds up that he is going to be some sort of scapegoat before the season started. I have no idea why. He hasn't cost us a huge fee, he isn't taking up huge wages and he has shown the sort of attitude we would all want to see.
The first two games he has been fine. On both the games the commentators (impartial) have commented how well he has done and how he needs extra help. One of the teams we have played against have subsequently bid over 40m. Yet some people would have you believe he was poor the last 2 games. You throw in that he was playing out of position in those two games, for the good of the team and it gives a wider context of those performances.
He is clearly a very good player for us, when played in position, and arguably out of position, or best attacking outlet. He was inches away from scoring our first goal of the season and being the only player who has scored for us.
There is a wider question about at what point you sell any player. I don't think any club can be so brazen as to not have a figure it sells a player, and honestly a club in our position can't. A bid of around 50m fulfills that in my view. I suspect it may come in, and theclub would have to strongly consider it.
If it doesn't go through though, none of that should be taken out on Gordon. It's not the lad himself's fault that people have a certain value on him. He's not the one robbing you of 45m or whatever. he is just a lad, who played an important role in keeping us up, and probably making an enormous profit for the club. That probably needs to be factored in, in some of the evaluations that we have seen.
how is it about FFP? we’ve done that with richy
ForeverBlue92
Player Valuation: £80m
Yeah he's either on the wind up or is being paid by someone with ulterior motives.
Im not quite sure which one at present.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I'm not sure how you've arrived at this conclusion mate.
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