kev101
Player Valuation: £25m
You can't be serious with this comparison
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Spadge Vernacular
Player Valuation: £60m
I can well imagine that you did.
Those of us knowledgable about football can see the brilliance. Danny Murphy, having been there and done it puts it well in identifying AG as a superstar in the making.
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £90m
I feel like playing with a head down dribbler who largely isn't available in dangerous areas to receive a pass and also doesn't pass into those areas isn't the easiest to work with
Paul Rideout
Player Valuation: £35m
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
If we're going to have a serious analysis about him we have to acknowledge he is a bit more than this.
1) Yes he is a good dribbler, which we would both accept
2) He does have good ability to get strikes away, to a degree with both feet. His shot on Saturday at Villa wasn't bad for a weaker foot. He needs to showcase this more. This was his USP in the reserves by the way, before he shot up and gained pace- he had a very good shot.
3) He's extremely quick with/without then ball. Sort of covered in 1.
4) He has a good spring and gets into good areas arriving in the box. Again need to see more of it.
5) Without the ball, he is excellent without the ball. I'm not talking relative for a 21 year old either. He does a lot of fantastic work without the ball in amost every defensive metric. In the modern game, where managers want people who can press from the front it gets you a long way.
His big weakness, is translating the attacking attributes into numbers, and as you have said, making himself more available to recieve attacking passes. Some of this is the players he's playing with though. Outside of Iwobi I'm not sure we have an attacking player who can pick passes out. I'm hoping McNeil can help supplement this. He also needs to get better at finishing.
I can completely see why Chelsea look at him though, and think he can do what Havertz does, maybe at a higher level, as he's faster.
den
Player Valuation: £750k
My gut tells me that the only driving factor for this is the board, and if it happened, it would poison so much, from the goodwill of many fans who love the story of the local lad at the heart of the squad, to the belief in any kind of loyalty from the new signings, to the heart and enthusiasm of the manager.
Frank was sacked at Chelsea in part because of clashes with an executive over transfer policy (interestingly, one of the targets was Tarkowski), and he’s been adamant that developing Gordon is central to his plans. Selling him blows up the process before it’s had a chance to develop.
The Echo has a throwaway line in one piece yesterday that they’ve been told Gordon has not pushed for an exit, and I’m starting to believe the people here who’ve said that’s coming from the board, trying to light the fire. The whole discourse has turned sour since this Chelsea pursuit ramped up, and I’d rather have a scrappy young squad growing and building together with a few young forwards brought in who are trying to prove themselves, than risk poisoning the well for another £50m to purchase a handful of overpriced players who likely won’t have much impact and certainly no inspiration.
Frank was sacked at Chelsea in part because of clashes with an executive over transfer policy (interestingly, one of the targets was Tarkowski), and he’s been adamant that developing Gordon is central to his plans. Selling him blows up the process before it’s had a chance to develop.
The Echo has a throwaway line in one piece yesterday that they’ve been told Gordon has not pushed for an exit, and I’m starting to believe the people here who’ve said that’s coming from the board, trying to light the fire. The whole discourse has turned sour since this Chelsea pursuit ramped up, and I’d rather have a scrappy young squad growing and building together with a few young forwards brought in who are trying to prove themselves, than risk poisoning the well for another £50m to purchase a handful of overpriced players who likely won’t have much impact and certainly no inspiration.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I mean you're a thoiughtful guy, and I quite like Gray, but honestly, how on earth would anyone other than Damrai Gray be holding back Demarai Gray. I don't mean that horribly, I'm not saying he has a bad attitude, but he lacks composure. You could put him with the best players in the world, and Gray is going to do what he does.
Have you been paying attention this window? They’re splurging mammoth amounts left, right and centre. Probably end up spending £80m+ on Fofana. What they’re spending is not indicative of what their signings are worth.
I’m not rubbishing him, far from it. I’m just not as desperate to paint him as the superstar he absolutely isn’t, just because he’s a local lad and tries hard.
There are few, if any players in our squad I wouldn’t take £50m for. The fact this board dug the hole doesn’t change the fact we’re in it, and this is an incredibly straightforward way of getting out. Utter foolishness not to accept if they come back with 50 big ones O.N.O.
Which is it? You either want a scrappy, young squad which would necessitate us signing scrappy, young players or you don’t trust the board to spend cash wisely.
We either flog what we can and use the proceeds to invest in better players or go with what we’ve got + Gana and probably a loan.
Goodisongang
Player Valuation: £20m
What are you getting at? That we should be looking to get 100m like grealish and Sancho went for?
Surely your not getting at that?
Grealish went for 100m because he was the best player for villa, captain, had a great season and a great euros on the back of that.
Sancho has been quality for Dortmund including on the champions League ( and very young )
Gordon closes down.
Can you see why these are different?
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I mean in 2017 Grealish was a 22 year old, playing the championship, having scored 1 PL goal. It's not really a like for like comparison.
Noisy noise annoys
Player Valuation: £60m
No, it confirms he’s out scoring two of the biggest transfers in history
It’s very relevant
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £90m
I think saying he can do what Havertz does misunderstands how much of a skill movement and finding space in the penalty area is. It's like saying someone can just be Thomas Muller (not that Havertz is as good) because they're more athletic. They actually probably can't.
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £90m
Well last season Gray was really good and then Anthony Gordon started getting into the team...
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