celebrating?
I genuinely think the points deduction damaged confidence and harmed the total too so it’s an unbelievable piece of work. Thank you Sean for your leadership. *doffs cap*
tadpole
Player Valuation: £15m
Agree with every word.
When Lampard left, I honestly thought we were heading for the drop - and I'm an optimist. Don't forget that Dyche wasn't able to bring in a single new player that transfer window. Keeping us up last season was hugely impressive, of course the fans played their part too.
Then this season, to deliver a mid table performance with the handicaps of turmoil off the pitch, an eight point deduction, and the weakest front line in the Premier League, is little short of extraordinary.
How's he done it ? A rock solid defence, pressing well off the ball, playing ugly, and finding ways of winning football matches. Mykolenko, Garner and Doucouré have all improved under his watch, while Branthwaite has developed into a world beater.
Given that our financial position isn't likely to turn rosy anytime soon, Dyche is a perfect fit for us. I hope to god he stays at Everon for a good few years to come.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £80m
Doesn’t matter the quality of the teams that come up, if you’re getting 44 points plus you ain’t going down in any season. We seem to hVe this stress every season recently but the Leicester side coming up is probably worse than the one that went down, probably worse than the current Burnley team, and probably worse than last season’s Burnley team (who people panicked about as well). Leeds if they come up will be worse than the side that went down. They’d both be favourites for the drop again.
If Dyche stays on for next season and is alllowed any sort of transfer budget, and we don’t get any points deductions, then we won’t be even concerning ourselves with the relegation picture.
If Dyche stays on for next season and is alllowed any sort of transfer budget, and we don’t get any points deductions, then we won’t be even concerning ourselves with the relegation picture.
Yes, in the circumstances a great achievement, but has come largely from extraordinary short bursts of form within long periods that even Tarks described as a dark place. Obviously huge external factors are at play but just when it looked like there was no chance he could drag us away from that place he did. Credit where it’s due. But whatever he’s changed apart from the tracksuit needs to stick, consistency has to get considerably better.
samcdavies94
Player Valuation: £6m
Not without caveats, but it is a great achievement to potentially rack up 50 odd points this season before deductions.
The squad is better than it looked during that four month run without a win, but it still has plenty of issues.
On top of that, I think he'll always be a frustrating manager, and although I'm not his biggest fan, I've never had much doubt that he's the right man for the circumstances.
The squad is better than it looked during that four month run without a win, but it still has plenty of issues.
On top of that, I think he'll always be a frustrating manager, and although I'm not his biggest fan, I've never had much doubt that he's the right man for the circumstances.
Lower mid-table would have been a very solid achievement. Not 'great' but definitely a job well done. Lower mid-table with 8 points deducted is a job very well done.
I'd hesitate to say 'great' but still very well done. If those higher up the power structure were as solidly competent we'd be in a much better position...and ironically would probably never have been in a situation where Dyche was offered the job.
Or Large Samuel.....
and definitely not that RS one who 'knew the city'.
I'd hesitate to say 'great' but still very well done. If those higher up the power structure were as solidly competent we'd be in a much better position...and ironically would probably never have been in a situation where Dyche was offered the job.
Or Large Samuel.....
and definitely not that RS one who 'knew the city'.
A great achievement for Dyche undoubtedly, his master stroke, in my opinion, was calling the players out after the shambles against Chelsea. He let them know in no uncertain manner that they weren't going to force him out, the players took it on board and suddenly there was a togetherness once again.
I'll never be his biggest fan, I think the football, for the most part is likely to make your eyes bleed, but, if you get results you get away with ugly football. I think the ambitions of the new owners, whoever they may be, will seal Dyche's fate. If they just want to get to the new ground in the prem, then Dyche is probably the man, if they want to start building, then Dyche will go.
Just as an aside, have we ever won three games in a week at Goodison before? Anyway we'll done to all of them, against the odds we're safe with 3 games to spare.
I'll never be his biggest fan, I think the football, for the most part is likely to make your eyes bleed, but, if you get results you get away with ugly football. I think the ambitions of the new owners, whoever they may be, will seal Dyche's fate. If they just want to get to the new ground in the prem, then Dyche is probably the man, if they want to start building, then Dyche will go.
Just as an aside, have we ever won three games in a week at Goodison before? Anyway we'll done to all of them, against the odds we're safe with 3 games to spare.
stretford blue
Player Valuation: £30m
He has led this football club when we have had zero leadership from above him
I thought after the Chelsea game we wouldn't win another game such was the manner of that defeat ,but huge credit to him and his staff and players and the massive part the fans have played we did
I thought after the Chelsea game we wouldn't win another game such was the manner of that defeat ,but huge credit to him and his staff and players and the massive part the fans have played we did
Baggzio
Player Valuation: £15m
Think this is a poor way to look at it to be honest because frankly we were never in a relegation battle but we were forced to look like we were. That false percpetion killed us all year and it's easy to see with the unrest from all around the club. Had we gone this season without the deductions and everything hanging over the club we'd have easily been a top half team, if not challenging for Europe.
We shouldn't look at the clubs below us and be relieved they didn't put more pressure on, we should be looking at how poor this league is from 5th down and being annoyed that we were actually robbed of a potentially very good season. A lot depends on the owners and the finances available but I frankly would have no issues with Dyche leading us forward, think he can build us to be a European side maybe, but the key word there is build, it's gonna take years but honestly with the past few years, anything but a final day relegation scrap is good enough for me at the moment.
