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27 years campaign

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Personally, I'd prefer it if Moshiri sold up now. It's abundantly clear to me that he doesn't know how to fix this mess, and the team is worsening to the point where relegation feels inevitable, if not this season then in the very near future.

However, Kenwright's role should not be underestimated. Moshiri is, after all, a mostly absentee owner, and it's Kenwright who, along with his appointee Little Ms Dynamite, determines the club's direction on a micro level. The rampant cronyism that permeates the club at all levels is the work of the board, and after decades of putting up with his self-serving lies, the fans are right to highlight his abject failure as a guiding hand for the new owner.
No his investment is what we need, he’s made mistakes with Benithez, koeman and Walsh, if he pulls out we loose the USM sponsorship and potentially the stadium. It’ll be club suicide it should be about sending him a message.
 
No chance imo.

That ground gets built one way or another - anyone believing relegation would put a stop to that is naive.

Clubs like Fulham spend £100 million, get relegated them come back up with their owner trying to buy new wembley with over £1 billion bids and he's not anywhere near as wealthy as Usmanov.

You underestimate how much power financially these cats wield - a bank telling them they wont get fantastic interest rates wont put them off building something that stands to make them a lot of money down the line.

We aren’t Fulham, they are a team built to be a yo-yo team, if we go down with our wage bill we have to get rid of the entire squad on the cheap and start again. If we can’t get shut of players then we are under the microscope straight away and risk points deductions. We are in such a perilous financial position that we cannot afford relegation.

With regards to the stadium, a Championship club isn’t worth anything whether it’s playing in a new stadium or not. Southampton have just been bought for £100m, they’re a much more stable premier league club than us currently.
 
We aren’t Fulham, they are a team built to be a yo-yo team, if we go down with our wage bill we have to get rid of the entire squad on the cheap and start again. If we can’t get shut of players then we are under the microscope straight away and risk points deductions. We are in such a perilous financial position that we cannot afford relegation.

With regards to the stadium, a Championship club isn’t worth anything whether it’s playing in a new stadium or not. Southampton have just been bought for £100m, they’re a much more stable premier league club than us currently.

We'll see mate.

I've seen nothing from the last 6 years to suggest Moshiri/Usmanov give a damn about the cost of something otherwise they wouldn't have thrown £500 million down the drain.

For these types of people its a vanity project - you and I make decisions everyday to just get through life with a roof over our heads and food in our bellies.

Is Usmanov wants in on Liverpool Waters and the letters "USM" lit up in a world class stadia on the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey that stadium gets built regardless of what league Everton play their football in imo.
 
What “evidence” are you looking for? Do you have any evidence that the directors of football or the manager signed them by the way? We have Moshiri on record that he personally scouted Tosun.
We aren’t Fulham, they are a team built to be a yo-yo team, if we go down with our wage bill we have to get rid of the entire squad on the cheap and start again. If we can’t get shut of players then we are under the microscope straight away and risk points deductions. We are in such a perilous financial position that we cannot afford relegation.

With regards to the stadium, a Championship club isn’t worth anything whether it’s playing in a new stadium or not. Southampton have just been bought for £100m, they’re a much more stable premier league club than us currently.
Lad we ain’t down yet. 18 games to go. Get a grip misery guts. Have some faith
 
Well done to all those taking the time out of their day to make it known that the wool cannot be pulled over our eyes and that things need to change at the top level of this club.

Gradually gaining traction, was always gonna be tough to mobilise a fan base who have been so comfortably numb for so long but realistically other than Moshiri / Kenwright having some Christmas carol like epiphany or having the entire Football Manager game series uploaded into their brains this is the only way anything will change.
 

No his investment is what we need, he’s made mistakes with Benithez, koeman and Walsh, if he pulls out we loose the USM sponsorship and potentially the stadium. It’ll be club suicide it should be about sending him a message.
Are the commercial deals we have really anything to write home about, though?

You're right to point to the cash injections that he's provided - something we were starved of for so long - but I've lost faith in his ability to hire the right people to run the club on his behalf. Remember that Russian fella who was going to assassinate all the deadwood? Whatever happened to him?

It's been six years now, and there hasn't been a single thing done to improve the club's long-term health or ability to compete. Key positions are still being filled by Kenwright cronies, and the only value-add has been in the form of a training ground sponsor that required the circumventing of financial governance rules.
 

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Would it?

If its true that Usmanov/Moshiri stand to make a lot of money from Liverpool Waters why would 2 blokes worth a combined £15 billion care about relegation?

They'll just pony more of the money up to get the ground built themselves if they couldn't get a loan.
You've mentioned this a couple of times now and I've seen others allude to it in the past. How are Moshiri and Usmanov going to make all this money from Liverpool Waters, isn't all the land owned by Peel?

And why would they need to spend over a billion pounds on the club and the stadium to do it? I understand how the stadium kick starts the development and essentially bookends things (whilst blocking off the sewerage plant) but I fail to see the benefit to the owners.
 

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