#27 Years/NSNOW/#AllTogetherNow Fan Campaign

[catcherintherye]

Meetings with Kenwright and Moshiri are fanciful ideas that are never happening but there are certainly more accessible people at the club who could run things up the flag pole

Yes perhaps fair. I dont think anybody has made that offer though is more the point I was making.

I think the CEO could and should meet with fan groups, particularly those who hold contrasting views. Even if it's just an exercise in improvement, you often learn most from people who hold different views to you.

 

[catcherintherye]

I remember when Kenwright had the meeting with people from the Blue Union.

I think more people got upset with it being recorded than what was said during the meeting.

The club will not engage with any fan groups to a serious discussion as they will fear words getting miscontrued.

We will get a written boring statement in the next few days which will say nothing and say we are all pushing in the same direction for success.

I think was that the meeting where he was unaware of what was in the operating expenses, which had skyrocketed over recent years.

This was over 10 years ago, and he clearly had no control over costs. And we wonder why, when more money came in, it was spent senselessly.

 

[Carlito]

I actually think there are 2 additional factors that further exacerbate the problems too:

1) With each year that goes by, every other club progresses and leaves us further behind in terms of competence.

2) Kenwright doesnt have sole running if the club, and Moshiri is equally as clueless in a completely different way. And they dont balance each other out. They almost act as a multiplier to the other inadequacies.

The first one is definitely a major concern.

Promoted clubs are doing a much better job of building competitive teams that either stay up and improve or go down fighting, which is pushing the likes of Everton down the table.

 

[AndyC]

Yes perhaps fair. I dont think anybody has made that offer though is more the point I was making.

I think the CEO could and should meet with fan groups, particularly those who hold contrasting views. Even if it's just an exercise in improvement, you often learn most from people who hold different views to you.

With the inception of the Fan Advisory Board, the club have installed a buffer to keep the rank and file supporters at bay.
They, the club hierarchy, will choose to hide behind the Fans Forum and FAB... and cherry pick the questions from these two entities that they'll choose to answer.
And if they ever do agree to a Fan Director, it'll be very interesting to see who they allow into/choose for that role.

 

[PKwalnuts]

Campaign would be better putting a flag up in the Gwladys, with Moshiri and Kenwrights faces up there, celebrating them, caressing their egos in ways never before seen by any fan group for any club owner or chairman ever before.

The sarcasm alone would be worth it, and it would be the best way to unify everyone else to go against it.

 

[catcherintherye]

The first one is definitely a major concern.

Promoted clubs are doing a much better job of building competitive teams that either stay up and improve or go down fighting, which is pushing the likes of Everton down the table.

Basically Everton have a chairman who exists in the 90s, with much of the mindset that accompanies it.

With each year it becomes more obsolete. And now there's no big Moshiri cash investment, or no David Moyes figure to give us some competitive advantage over those teams.

 

[catcherintherye]

With the inception of the Fan Advisory Board, the club have installed a buffer to keep the rank and file supporters at bay.
They, the club hierarchy, will choose to hide behind the Fans Forum and FAB... and cherry pick the questions from these two entities that they'll choose to answer.
And if they ever do agree to a Fan Director, it'll be very interesting to see who they allow into/choose for that role.

Yes I agree. But liasing with the fans, for a healthy org would obviously go beyond those structures.

 

[The Esk]

I agree with everything you said but it doesn’t describe the esk sadly.

He is a self promoter and has a bit of a god complex. He does not and never will represent the people of the peoples club

Hi mate I have no idea who you are other than you are an Evertonian. Equally you have no idea who I am other than we share the same love for a football club.

I have strong opinions and am prepared to offer solutions as I see it. Whether you or the club accept those opinions is down to each of you.

In the meantime the #27campaign and me personally will continue to campaign as we see fit.

DMs, twitter & my email address are all in the public domain should you or anyone else wish to chat

 

[BenToffee79]

With respect pal, you do not know Esk, have never met Esk and therefore have no knowledge of his persona other than your rather jaundiced opinion.

You call him a self promoter and accuse him of having a God complex, so explain why anybody with those traits would prefer to keep his personal identity private?
Remember, I told you previously that there are more than a decent handful of GOT posters who know him personally as I do.

I am sure you will write the foreword to his biography or maybe even help cast who will play him.

Given his desire to hide his identity I feel any movie may look like a crimewatch special with a distorted voice and silhouette to hide the identity.

All I am saying is that if he has these credentials then tell us what they are

Your more put out by a very successful businessman and a mad passionate blue flagging up some very obvious concerns about the perilous state of Everton fc than the clowns who’s made this club a complete laughing stock, interesting , I mean what’s he saying that you don’t agree with ? I’ve got to hear this,unless your happy with the last 27-28 years

 

[UltraVires]

And there you go again with needlessly silly comments that are actually beneath you.

I'll tell you this mate, he's a hugely successful businessman and as passionate a Blue as I've ever met.

I was making a tongue in cheek remark to emphasise the point that he could literally be anyone and his business knowledge could be amazing or it could be nothing.

 

[UltraVires]

With respect pal, you do not know Esk, have never met Esk and therefore have no knowledge of his persona other than your rather jaundiced opinion.

You call him a self promoter and accuse him of having a God complex, so explain why anybody with those traits would prefer to keep his personal identity private?
Remember, I told you previously that there are more than a decent handful of GOT posters who know him personally as I do.

You don’t have to put your own name out there to be a self promoter. The name esk is what he promotes.

 

[AndyC]

You don’t have to put your own name out there to be a self promoter. The name esk is what he promotes.

He's responded to you. so why not take up his offer to discuss things - you might be pleasantly surprised.

 

[UltraVires]

Hi mate I have no idea who you are other than you are an Evertonian. Equally you have no idea who I am other than we share the same love for a football club.

I have strong opinions and am prepared to offer solutions as I see it. Whether you or the club accept those opinions is down to each of you.

In the meantime the #27campaign and me personally will continue to campaign as we see fit.

DMs, twitter & my email address are all in the public domain should you or anyone else wish to chat

I don’t disagree with the idea at all and I can respect you coming on here to offer some insight.

All I am saying is that you choose to be anonymous to the vast majority of us and for that reason, we have no idea whether you have the credentials to challenge the board in the right ways.

Whether you and Andy accept it or not, you are known as being the person behind the campaign and as an evertonian, I just can’t get behind a leader of such a campaign that I know nothing about.

 

[UltraVires]

Your more put out by a very successful businessman and a mad passionate blue flagging up some very obvious concerns about the perilous state of Everton fc than the clowns who’s made this club a complete laughing stock, interesting , I mean what’s he saying that you don’t agree with ? I’ve got to hear this,unless your happy with the last 27-28 years

Just look at my profile pic to know that isn’t the case. I just won’t blindly follow anyone no matter the cause because that’s not a realistic way to live your life in my view

 

[UltraVires]

He's responded to you. so why not take up his offer to discuss things - you might be pleasantly surprised.

As you’ll see from my response I respect he has come on to answer some things and equally if he chooses to remain anonymous that’s his right.

I just don’t think you can be behind a cause like this while remaining anonymous