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4 points off 4th

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I think a lot of people are missing the MAIN point here. We are in a fantastic position. We play the 4 teams around us. They are 6 pointers and cup finals. Id rather have the chance to gain 3 points and remove 3 points from your rivals than have to wait and see is others will do it for you. If we're good enough for the champions league we should beat these teams anyway. You have to earn that 4th spot it doesn't come on merit.
That's a good point. If we played the bottom six (and our competition did too) we could win all the games and still not gain a single point on our competition if they win their games too. This way is harder but we do "control our own destiny" to use a cliché. We just have to beat these teams in front of us ... not worry about other teams helping us out. It's a big ask of course but it's pretty straight-forward. These teams aren't infallible -- they aren't doing that much better than us so far.
 
Its men and boys stuff now, it will be about who wants it more, games against Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs possibly Norway are six pointers.

All to play for but we're up there being competitive for it.

Spot on mate. It's actually better facing the teams around you than not. You can knock them for 6! If Moyes is really as good as he thinks along with the likes of Fellaini, Baines, Mirallas, Jagielka, Heitinga. All players who probably think they are Champions League quality they need to show it. No good blaming other players etc.

2 posters who actually GOT my main point in posting this thread. It's all to play for. Saturday's win wasn't "meaningless" or "too little too late". If we want it we have to go take it, difficult or not.
 
Arsenal are very hard to predict though, I'd thought they'd slip up away at Swansea but they didn't. Any one of those games might be hard for them.

If Lukaku dont rape us at West Brom and we get 3 points there. We are certain to make the top 4. We will beat QPR, Wigan, Reading and Norwich 100%. We have Cazorla who's in top form now and gervinho is finally waking up. Dont be surprised if Gervinho of all people win us couple of crucial games. Wilshere is out for the season, but I fancy Ramsey to push on now. Our biggest problem this season has been our 2 most known defensive players have been absolutely shocking and it took Wenger up to March to drop both Sczezny and Vermaelen. We have been crying out for Kosicleny to start next to Mertesacker as he's much better defender than vermaelen. But you cant drop the captain. It tells you how bad he has been that he has been dropped despite being the Captain
 
If Lukaku dont rape us at West Brom and we get 3 points there. We are certain to make the top 4. We will beat QPR, Wigan, Reading and Norwich 100%. We have Cazorla who's in top form now and gervinho is finally waking up. Dont be surprised if Gervinho of all people win us couple of crucial games. Wilshere is out for the season, but I fancy Ramsey to push on now. Our biggest problem this season has been our 2 most known defensive players have been absolutely shocking and it took Wenger up to March to drop both Sczezny and Vermaelen. We have been crying out for Kosicleny to start next to Mertesacker as he's much better defender than vermaelen. But you cant drop the captain. It tells you how bad he has been that he has been dropped despite being the Captain

I'm not arsed so long as Chelsea and Spurs collapse sufficiently enough to allow us in the party as well.
 
If Lukaku dont rape us at West Brom and we get 3 points there. We are certain to make the top 4. We will beat QPR, Wigan, Reading and Norwich 100%. We have Cazorla who's in top form now and gervinho is finally waking up. Dont be surprised if Gervinho of all people win us couple of crucial games. Wilshere is out for the season, but I fancy Ramsey to push on now. Our biggest problem this season has been our 2 most known defensive players have been absolutely shocking and it took Wenger up to March to drop both Sczezny and Vermaelen. We have been crying out for Kosicleny to start next to Mertesacker as he's much better defender than vermaelen. But you cant drop the captain. It tells you how bad he has been that he has been dropped despite being the Captain

Lol. Okay mate x
 

If Lukaku dont rape us at West Brom and we get 3 points there. We are certain to make the top 4. We will beat QPR, Wigan, Reading and Norwich 100%. We have Cazorla who's in top form now and gervinho is finally waking up. Dont be surprised if Gervinho of all people win us couple of crucial games. Wilshere is out for the season, but I fancy Ramsey to push on now. Our biggest problem this season has been our 2 most known defensive players have been absolutely shocking and it took Wenger up to March to drop both Sczezny and Vermaelen. We have been crying out for Kosicleny to start next to Mertesacker as he's much better defender than vermaelen. But you cant drop the captain. It tells you how bad he has been that he has been dropped despite being the Captain

What a massive belter you are
 
If Lukaku dont rape us at West Brom and we get 3 points there. We are certain to make the top 4. We will beat QPR, Wigan, Reading and Norwich 100%. We have Cazorla who's in top form now and gervinho is finally waking up. Dont be surprised if Gervinho of all people win us couple of crucial games. Wilshere is out for the season, but I fancy Ramsey to push on now. Our biggest problem this season has been our 2 most known defensive players have been absolutely shocking and it took Wenger up to March to drop both Sczezny and Vermaelen. We have been crying out for Kosicleny to start next to Mertesacker as he's much better defender than vermaelen. But you cant drop the captain. It tells you how bad he has been that he has been dropped despite being the Captain

Vermaelen is your best CB IMO.
 

Yeah and Neville is your most important player(y)

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My point is every club has a player that has much better media perception than he deserve and the people that watches him the most dont rate him that much. It doesnt make any sense that vast majority of arsenal fans think he's not better than mertesacker or Koscielny, yet he is seen as a good defender by others. nevilles situation with you guys is perfect example
 

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