4th (KO in qualifer) v 5th

[chicoazul]

5 seeded qualifiers and 5 non seeded (us)

so most likely at the moment to be one of the seeds:

1/ Porto
2/ Zenit, cska, spartak or dinamo moscow
3/ napoli
l4/ everkusen, mainz, monchengladback or wolfsburg
5/ or...galatasaray/bilbao

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[N.S.N.O.]

we won't get a tough draw in the Champs league qualifiers (if we get there)...

last time we were the unwanted 5th English team, so uefa kicked us out (in favour of Liverpool who the sponsors wanted).....

uefa will want 4 English teams in the competition, so we will be treated differently this time....

 

[Chang Elephant]

Would you rather be in a raffle for £15M with just two tickets in it, or just go right to a game of bingo for 150 and try and win a giant panda?

The panda is tempting

 

[chicoazul]

I do worry about drawing an ace team in qualifying. Although I balance that anxiety in knowing that Martinez will have an actual go at them rather than slowing the pace right down like Moyes tried and with it playing right into the opposition's hands.

 

[Allezfan]

we won't get a tough draw in the Champs league qualifiers (if we get there)...

last time we were the unwanted 5th English team, so uefa kicked us out (in favour of Liverpool who the sponsors wanted).....

uefa will want 4 English teams in the competition, so we will be treated differently this time....

There's rules set up as to who we'll get.

It's seeded and non champions play non champions.

They're not going to break rules set up entirely to preserve the elite and stop newbies breaking in just to let a newbie break in by giving us the latvian champions to kick about.

 

[andym78]

we won't get a tough draw in the Champs league qualifiers (if we get there)...

last time we were the unwanted 5th English team, so uefa kicked us out (in favour of Liverpool who the sponsors wanted).....

uefa will want 4 English teams in the competition, so we will be treated differently this time....

I like this theory.

It's like positive paranoia

 

[Wizard]

If we qualify we enter at the Playoff Round against other non-Champions as Allezfan said. The other 9 teams are..

4th Place Spain
4th Place Germany
3rd Place Italy
3rd Place Portugal

Then 5 of...

3rd France
2nd Ukraine
2nd Russia
2nd Belgium
2nd Netherlands
2nd Turkey
2nd Greece
2nd Denmark
2nd Switzerland
2nd Cyprus

These were the ties this year...

Lyon 0–4 Real Sociedad
Schalke 04 4–3 PAOK
Paços de Ferreira 3–8 Zenit Saint Petersburg
PSV Eindhoven 1–4 Milan
Fenerbahçe 0–5 Arsenal

 

[Thacko]

Is this a real thread?

 

[jrj]

If we get 4th, Bilbao are the toughest opponent IMO.

 

[Michaelcoyb]

I do worry about drawing an ace team in qualifying. Although I balance that anxiety in knowing that Martinez will have an actual go at them rather than slowing the pace right down like Moyes tried and with it playing right into the opposition's hands.

I want to see us go toe to toe with a big european team. I think we could beat any team placed 4th in the other big leagues over 2 legs.

 

[Julio Ananas]

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I spent all of the easter holiday week on a crash English course. I feel so liberated.

 

[Michaelcoyb]

Btw Im sick and tired of saddists creating threads!

 

[N.S.N.O.]

There's rules set up as to who we'll get.

It's seeded and non champions play non champions.

They're not going to break rules set up entirely to preserve the elite and stop newbies breaking in just to let a newbie break in by giving us the latvian champions to kick about.

yes but we'll avoid a Spanish, Italian or German team....

 

[Allezfan]

If we qualify we enter at the Playoff Round against other non-Champions as Allezfan said. The other 9 teams are..

4th Place Spain
4th Place Germany
3rd Place Italy
3rd Place Portugal

Then 5 of...

3rd France
2nd Ukraine
2nd Russia
2nd Belgium
2nd Netherlands
2nd Turkey
2nd Greece
2nd Denmark
2nd Switzerland
2nd Cyprus

These were the ties this year...

Lyon 0–4 Real Sociedad
Schalke 04 4–3 PAOK
Paços de Ferreira 3–8 Zenit Saint Petersburg
PSV Eindhoven 1–4 Milan
Fenerbahçe 0–5 Arsenal

And it's seeded and we'll never be one of the top 5 seeds.

So we'd play off vs one of the best 5 of those 10.

Last year for instance the 5 seeds were arse, lyon, schalke, zenit and milan.

A non seed like us would have to beat one of them like sociedad did.

 

[Julio Ananas]

If we get 4th, Bilbao are the toughest opponent IMO.

We're actually least likely to face bilbao from all of those, as galatasaray and some of the other randoms have a higher coefficient. So as long as galatasaray dont lose their pre-qual against Huyton under 9s then Bilbao would also be unseeded.