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6 + 2 Point Deductions

HalfTimeSayers said:
If they had a proper penalty calculation method, Forest would be sorted in 3 minutes flat. Admitting guilt, deliberately breaching in order to maximise profit on a player sale after the close of the assessment period, which will help their compliance in future periods and give them more to reinvest the in the squad this year.

Deliberate and knowing breach with clear and resultant sporting and financial advantage. Even though what they did is definitely the right decision to improve their profitability and sustainability.

Though they planted the seed in a press release before they charge was even official that they’d had a terribly terribly tricky time adapting to accounting for PL activity, promotion bonuses etc.

Don’t mind that they tried to spend their way to PL competitiveness; it was the way everyone that questioned them was slapped down and told it’s all completely fine and above board that was very annoying.
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The Forest ruling will be very interesting. Personally like you I think if Profit & Sustainability actually means what it says it’s ridiculous clubs should have to sell for less profit just to meet the P&S deadline. That defeats the larger purpose.

BUT the rules say the deadline is the deadline and we did sell Richy in a hurry to meet it, and got no credit for it. So it would be inconsistent with their inflexible approach to our mitigations to let them count Johnson towards last year’s PSR.

The other key thing to watch with the decision is if they do allow the Johnson sale to mitigate last year’s accounts there has to also be an adjustment to this season’s to balance it. They surely can’t use it to allow them off with last season’s breach AND let them count it on this season’s accounts.
 
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Tony’s Carp said:
The Forest ruling will be very interesting. Personally like you I think if Profit & Sustainability actually means what it says it’s ridiculous clubs should have to sell for less profit just to meet the P&S deadline. That defeats the larger purpose.

BUT the rules say the deadline is the deadline and we did sell Richy in a hurry to meet it, and got no credit for it. So it would be inconsistent with their inflexible approach to our mitigations to let them count Johnson towards last year’s PSR.

The other key thing to watch with the decision is if they do allow the Johnson sale to mitigate last year’s accounts there has to also be an adjustment to this season’s to balance it. They surely can’t use it to allow them off with last season’s breach AND let them count it on this season’s accounts.
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Yes they won’t get off it but I think it will be a much more modest penalty than ours. Hopefully that will be in part due to us being able to reduce our first penalty
 
Trying to explain this whole thing to people that either don’t know or don’t understand is so difficult.

I have just been asked about it and I was met with, ‘it’s nobody’s fault but Everton’s because you spent loads of money on players’, ‘it’s Everton’s fault that the club had been run so bad’.

It’s so frustrating trying to explain about the mitigating circumstances and the appeal and stuff such as The richarlison transfer in comparison to Forest and Johnson. Things like the rule being created just to use against Everton. Even the people I’ve explained it all to have gone, well if that’s the case it doesn’t exactly sound fair. But it’s so hard trying to tell people and explain who haven’t read the documents or been part of this thread for example.
 

Bez2k2k said:
Trying to explain this whole thing to people that either don’t know or don’t understand is so difficult.

I have just been asked about it and I was met with, ‘it’s nobody’s fault but Everton’s because you spent loads of money on players’, ‘it’s Everton’s fault that the club had been run so bad’.

It’s so frustrating trying to explain about the mitigating circumstances and the appeal and stuff such as The richarlison transfer in comparison to Forest and Johnson. Things like the rule being created just to use against Everton. Even the people I’ve explained it all to have gone, well if that’s the case it doesn’t exactly sound fair. But it’s so hard trying to tell people and explain who haven’t read the documents or been part of this thread for example.
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I found it quite easy explaining it to my Wife when she asked the other day.

"Everton took the piss, we got caught, they took points off us".
 
Tony’s Carp said:
The Forest ruling will be very interesting. Personally like you I think if Profit & Sustainability actually means what it says it’s ridiculous clubs should have to sell for less profit just to meet the P&S deadline. That defeats the larger purpose.

BUT the rules say the deadline is the deadline and we did sell Richy in a hurry to meet it, and got no credit for it. So it would be inconsistent with their inflexible approach to our mitigations to let them count Johnson towards last year’s PSR.

The other key thing to watch with the decision is if they do allow the Johnson sale to mitigate last year’s accounts there has to also be an adjustment to this season’s to balance it. They surely can’t use it to allow them off with last season’s breach AND let them count it on this season’s accounts.
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so it’s our brief v they’res in a court?

we need the points back so badly
 

Bez2k2k said:
Trying to explain this whole thing to people that either don’t know or don’t understand is so difficult.

I have just been asked about it and I was met with, ‘it’s nobody’s fault but Everton’s because you spent loads of money on players’, ‘it’s Everton’s fault that the club had been run so bad’.

It’s so frustrating trying to explain about the mitigating circumstances and the appeal and stuff such as The richarlison transfer in comparison to Forest and Johnson. Things like the rule being created just to use against Everton. Even the people I’ve explained it all to have gone, well if that’s the case it doesn’t exactly sound fair. But it’s so hard trying to tell people and explain who haven’t read the documents or been part of this thread for example.
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like me you mean? lol all i know is we’ve been volleyed in the balls
 
matty1878 said:
if we had them now mate we all wouldn’t be worried as we are (ish)

and if we do so the second one?
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I have a flawless record on here Matty, by that I mean I am always wrong.

But.

I see no reason whatsoever how we escape the 2nd breach.

Both times we have submitted accounts that we submitted knowing we had breached PSR, both times.

All we can do is attack the process.
 
Goat said:
I have a flawless record on here Matty, by that I mean I am always wrong.

But.

I see no reason whatsoever how we escape the 2nd breach.

Both times we have submitted accounts that we submitted knowing we had breached PSR both times.

All we can do is attack the process.
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so the second breach theyl deduct the points?

that’s us cooked goat of it’s the case
 

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