HappyJack
Player Valuation: £5m
The ‘bad smell’ is the background lobbying of Liverpool FC , to decimate Everton is their chance of one team one city like the halfwits from geordie town.
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siddharth
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Even after all of this, we were not represented by competent enough people in counsel. Some mitigations in the report seem reasonable yet were waved away as daily operation of a premier league club. Which other club has a self-funded stadium under construction, 1 major player's termination and write off, all while being in the middle of a pandemic.
It seems like the harshness of the penalty is to do with the Premier league wishing to avoid being regulated by an external body.
Our local MP's and Andy Burnham should be campaigning for exactly this to happen. With the handling of our case (versus others) an example of how the Premier League can't govern themselves effectively.
Our local MP's and Andy Burnham should be campaigning for exactly this to happen. With the handling of our case (versus others) an example of how the Premier League can't govern themselves effectively.
bluenorthwarrior
Player Valuation: £8m
Two things in the cold light off the morning.
- Firstly despite some doom sayers the footballing situation as it stands is that we have in effect a 26 game season to match (+2 points) three very poor teams. Even accounting for a disastrous start we look a nailed on mid-table performer this season so strong favourites to win the mini league of 4 teams, and I would even say catch another 1 or 2 above that.
- Secondly our appeal should focus on 3 things; firstly the entirely unreasonable views taken by the panel on some of our mitigation points - whatever formula is used to decide the number it is by getting the mitigation accepted that will lead to it being reduced; secondly the pretty oxymoronic view of the panel that no sporting advantage was gained but a sporting penalty is the only appropriate one; and thirdly attack the line that a rich owner cannot be fined as a punishment as it has no effect - virtually every other offence is dealt with by club fines from pitch invasions to failing to control player behaviour to racism.
Pretty much this, we admitted we were guilty just before the hearing and then turned up to the hearing with a load of " The Dog ate my homework " excuses.
Are we guilty? Yes we are.
Is the punishment too harsh? Yes it is
Gilbert..
Player Valuation: £50m
100%. Thats why i think no matter what was put before them they've used Everton as a scapegoat and that was their main goal. By rights that points deduction should be halved on appeal. But i wont hold my breath on that one.
The one good thing Everton did with the statement was say they will be observing other clubs situations. A clear warning shot that you've opened a can of worms here and this isnt over.
tadpole
Player Valuation: £20m
Premier League v Everton FC
An independent Disciplinary Commission issued its decision today in a case brought by the Premier League against Everton FC for breach of the Premier League’s Profitability and Sustainability Rules.
www.blackstonechambers.com
Just read the commissions judgement for myself. The amount of the default - £19.5m - is considered a serious breach, which feels mad in the context of what Chelsea and City are spending every week. Too little weight is given to mitigating factors. Yes for a period the club was spending beyond its means, making poorly judged player purchases that didnt work out. But in 2020/21 they had to deal with a very difficult set of circumstances, the unprecedented Covid losses, changes in the transfer market that made it harder to sell players like Tosun, and financing the new stadium. It's clear that the club was engaging with the PL and was trying to comply, perhaps mistakes were made, but the commission doesn't discuss what more it thinks that the club should have done in 2021 to raise funds.
Ominously the commission is very clear that a points deduction is an appropriate sanction for a breach such as this. If our main argument is lack of proportionality, best we can hope for may be a small reduction in the points penalty.
It's an even sadder day when the only friends in the media are this rag....
IAN HERBERT: At least Everton came clean - unlike secretive Man City
IAN HERBERT: The fundamental scandal resides in the fact that Everton have cooperated with the Premier League - virtually to the point of prostrating themselves - in the past two years.www.dailymail.co.uk
Dark times.
Tipp blue
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
This is exactly what's happened, they've gone from 0 to 100 to avoid this happening.. Akin to a police force going from letting people away with murder to giving the death penalty to someone caught littering.
Marius57
Player Valuation: £60m
Hasn’t worked though. The politicians I’ve seen who have commented have said it’s just shown how urgently the regulator is needed. So it’s backfired on them massively as they have gone too hard.
Gilbert..
Player Valuation: £50m
Premier League v Everton FC
An independent Disciplinary Commission issued its decision today in a case brought by the Premier League against Everton FC for breach of the Premier League’s Profitability and Sustainability Rules.
Just read the commissions judgement for myself. The amount of the default - £19.5m - is considered a serious breach, which feels mad in the context of what Chelsea and City are spending every week. Too little weight is given to mitigating factors. Yes for a period the club was spending beyond its means, making poorly judged player purchases that didnt work out. But in 2020/21 they had to deal with a very difficult set of circumstances, the unprecedented Covid losses, changes in the transfer market that made it harder to sell players like Tosun, and financing the new stadium. It's clear that the club was engaging with the PL and was trying to comply, perhaps mistakes were made, but the commission doesn't discuss what more it thinks that the club should have done in 2021 to raise funds.
Ominously the commission is very clear that a points deduction is an appropriate sanction for a breach such as this. If our main argument is lack of proportionality, best we can hope for may be a small reduction in the points penalty.
That bit there is the maddest part. Chelsea using loopholes to just laugh in their face and shell out 800m. And they've done Everton for 19m over the ceiling. Even when weve scrambled to claw it back with player sales in richarlison and gordon.
Taking the right piss.
A definite change in tone from the media today, particularly sky. Clearly a lot of phone calls have gone in over night as the reaction yesterday was that the punishment is ridiculous, and the PL narrative all too obvious.
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
It was in a different accountancy year, so has nothing to do with costing us any points (this year at least).
The whole thing has just been a witch hunt. Know one can say it’s either corrupt or a farce. For me it’s both. The best example is, the premier league creating a metric back in august to calculate how many points to deduct a club for breach’s.
Firstly why wasn’t one already in place, secondly creating the metic after Everton have already been told we are going before an independent commission. Then lastly the very metric the premier league created would mean the highest points deduction they could give us is 10 points, yet the told everyone that if Everton are guilty they should be deducted 12 points. Honestly it’s a circus.