6 + 2 Point Deductions

[GraemeS1980]

Im of the opinion that given the reponse by Everton they have got something up their sleeve, this all seems to simple and surely they woldnt just lie back and have their tummy tickled. I have a feeling they are waiting until the 2nd charge and then will release all hell even Moshiri isnt stupid enough to let this lie

 

[Tipp blue]

Yes

They are not

There's a reason City's lawyers bundled 115 charges together and kicked it down the road.
Theirs is coming mate.

They'll find some technicality and have the whole lot binned I'm certain of it... we'll be the only club punished for P&S.

 

[Tin-Tin]

I hope we send the same super silk to appeal any punishment 2nd time amound..

We are

 

[Tipp blue]

Im of the opinion that given the reponse by Everton they have got something up their sleeve, this all seems to simple and surely they woldnt just lie back and have their tummy tickled. I have a feeling they are waiting until the 2nd charge and then will release all hell even Moshiri isnt stupid enough to let this lie

You 100% on that?

 

[maccavennie]

Take a 3 point deduction every week Everton but tell them they can shove their PL up their greedy corrupt arses.

We play like a League 1 side anyway so may as well drop down a couple of divisions and start enjoying our football again.

Spending more time working out our finances than being able to boo players is an absolute bore and not what footballs about.

 

[sbbefc]

I think another 2 points off is the most likely outcome and we should work off the assumption we will lose another couple of points.

I'd work off the assumption we're losing 6.

 

[jazzy]

Exactly. We have only currently been accused of the 2nd breach because of the 3 year roll. Remove 2 years double jeopardy from that and there is no breach. Charges dropped etc.

How do you know what the Y23 figure is?

 

[Tipp blue]

Another article about clubs pushing to relax the current rules, just in time for them to escape the same fate I assume, or to avoid having to sell to buy.

The only proof that i needed was how quiet the Jan transfer window was, Every club is close to or in breach and nobody wanted to draw attention to themselves by spending big.. I'd wager that every club would be found guilty of financial irregularities if their accounts were dragged through the coals like ours were..

 

[allen]

I'd work off the assumption we're losing 6.

Yeah.

I think this is the only sensible thing to do.

I think it gives certainty. Assume that, work to that.

 

[Victus]

Take a 3 point deduction every week Everton but tell them they can shove their PL up their greedy corrupt arses.

We play like a League 1 side anyway so may as well drop down a couple of divisions and start enjoying our football again.

Spending more time working out our finances than being able to boo players is an absolute bore and not what footballs about.

Nah you're alright.

 

[jazzy]

You'd think with the level of his fees he could afford to get his teeth done , someone put him in touch with Klopp please .

 

[Tony’s Carp]

Im of the opinion that given the reponse by Everton they have got something up their sleeve, this all seems to simple and surely they woldnt just lie back and have their tummy tickled. I have a feeling they are waiting until the 2nd charge and then will release all hell even Moshiri isnt stupid enough to let this lie

Our statement yesterday said we were “fully committed to co-operating” with the PL on the second charge which I thought was interesting. If we’re about to battle to them in another hearing what would we be co-operating about?

So I wonder if the conciliatory tone of that statement is because we are hoping to reach a (non-points) settlement before the hearing begins based on double counting.

 

[Lob]

How do you know what the Y23 figure is?

Nobody knows apart from Everton. You can only go off their reaction when they were charged which I posted a few posts back. It gives the impression they would have been fine if they hadn't had to submit it over a 3 year rolling period of which 2 of it where double jeopardy.

 

[ToffeeTim]

The question I have is whether (with a lot of other stuff on their plate) the PL are really going to battle with us over the double counting issue.

They don’t have a double counting rule, so they could stand up and argue for a full sanction and make us make a full case around natural justice issues.

At the same time they could (but probably won’t) simply agree at some pre-hearing meeting that the EFL double counting measures are fair and reasonable and if that puts us clear of breach then it’s one less thing on their plate.

But that would require reasonable thinking.

I dont think yesterday's verdict suggests there is any likelihood at all of this being solved pre hearing. And if its a consistent approach, its going to be very difficult to have a mitigation heard.

I think the double jeopardy is going to be our main point. And potentially the level of any breach if it is very small. But we don't know figures yet.

 

[USABlue]

I'm guessing we get 2 more taken off, Forrest lose 6, then they change the rules and City and Co get off scotfree