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6 + 2 Point Deductions

Saint Domingo said:
This is what is ultimately so infuriating. The regulations are there (apparently) to protect clubs from financial ruin and ending up in administration.

We have worked with the PL to avoid this exact problem through prudent transfer window expenditure (a policy that has already punished team performance already with our best players like James, Richarlison, Gordon, Digne leaving and cheaper worse players replacing them) resulting in two back to back relegation battles)

Just at the point when we are finally coming back into compliance we are punished with a sporting penalty (despite the ruling claiming no sporting advantage has been earned) and are now threatened with a relegation and lawsuit that could lead to our financial oblivion, the very thing the regulations are supposed to protect against.

If P&S didn’t exist we would have not sold our best players, bought more during the January transfer windows in seasons we were struggling, finished higher in the league, probably kept previous managers potentially even Ancelotti, not have incurred this points deduction, not have incurred the inherent fine of lost prize money for league places lost this season. We’d also have probably been bought out now by investors who knew they had a chance of competing rather than knowing they can’t spend a bean even if they want to.

In short the regulations have done entirely what the top teams wanted them to do which is destroy their competition. We’ve been first but watch what occurs if Newcastle Villa don’t make the CL and Forest Wolves don’t sell enough players.

People can bleat on on here about how Everton didn’t follow the rules but those rules were in place purely to prevent incursions into the elite of the game.

These rules, crippling injuries, the war in Ukraine, player x issue, have absolutely decimated the club before you even get into our board’s incompetence during the period. By some miracle we’ve actually survived and built a new stadium and just at the point when we’re scraping ourselves off the ropes and ready to potentially start think about moving upwards again the league have just come in and absolutely shattered us with a penalty that will certainly impact this season if not also next season if we get relegated and even if not certainly in terms of potential transfer targets view of us.

I just can’t believe people are being so blasé about it ‘maybe it will only be 6 points’ ‘we did break the rules etc.’ ‘we’ll stay up anyway’ ‘the club will bind together, can’t wait for Sunday’ ‘as long as City and Chelsea are punished’ - it’s one of the biggest most blatantly unfair disgraces in the history of professional football that we’ve received this punishment. In effect the PL with their P&S rules and the independent commission in how they’ve upheld them have taken it on themselves to try and destroy Everton football club, and other clubs similar, as competitive entities at the top of the game.

The club should be at war with the PL from this day forward and should have the defamation lawsuit ready to go for reputational and financial damages.
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That's right. Get some proper lawyers and sue the PL.
 
Cool_Blue said:
The club have said they will watch proceedings with interest, but what are the chances, in the real world, of City and Chelsea getting done?
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By the time they've waited around watching proceedings, in about 3 or 4 years, there will be different rules, so everything will just dandy by then.
I will hazard a guess that we will be the only club that is done for ffp, whatever its called, unless they can drag another small team in for a pittance penalty. This whole thing reeks of setting an example, corruption at its finest. Let's face it we don't really have owners at the moment. The owner just wants out anyway he can, the Chairman who was heavily involved, has passed on, the old board, CEO, Chief Finance officer have resigned and don't want to know, we are perfect for being a scapegoat.
 
siddharth said:
The 105m applies only when we have PL status, EPL has their own PSR. The problem is that this number was arrived at including covid. Which is crazy, if a club has a infrastructure project that it did not stop and daily match revenues are non-existent, it is not beyond the scope of possibility that we lost some money.
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We lost £378 million in a 3 year period that included Covid, so the £105m definitely doesn't include it.
 
smileychap said:
I think it goes something like this 'hopefully' (as a worst case):

- 10pt deduction -avoid relegtion thanks to Dyche getting a tune from our squad
- Pay 100-120m to relegated clubs and avoid administation owing to player sales (Pickford, Onana, Branthwaite over the next 2 windows maybe 125m)
- Club sale completes - hurray, clean slate
- 2024-25 - we're into BMD! Somehow Dyche has to keep us in up 2024-25 without the lads above.
And when he does I hope he's recognised as one of our most 'successful' manager's of all time
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It's a nightmare.
How can we survive if we have to sell 3 of our best players (again).
 

spectateur said:
It's a nightmare.
How can we survive if we have to sell 3 of our best players (again).
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It's another great idea from thd PL, already failed big boys Man United are linked with Onana and Branthwaite, the amount of pressure the PL will put on us to sell players will make them nice cheap sales. Win, win, win for our big club heroes again.
 

What are Evertonians doing about their official Fantasy Premier League accounts? Quitting on mass or protesting by changing their team name.
That is what I've just done... perhaps we should all add the word 'corrupt' to our team names and see how long it takes for them to block us all!!
 
RD2910 said:
Honestly, the ruling says there was a sporting advantage. That's the point of their harsh punishment.

To be honest, I don't really know what's going on here.
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You are right it says that a sporting advantage could be inferred(using Sheffield Wednesday as example) but it could not be quantified.
 
Amidst all the fuss in the media about our "spending," just for context and even though it isn't relevant to the commission's findings, I'd like to know the net spend under Moshiri. There was only one splurge in Koemans first window in 2016. The idea that we've been continuously profigate is misleading and inaccurate. There were concerns expressed here in the summer when Kieran Maguire proclaimed us guilty on national radio and it's this general narrative that feeds into a misconception that the club has burned money each and every window since 2016.
 
Jacko93 said:
The problem is, that as part of the final sections of the ruling they state that no precedent can be set from this ruling and sentence and that it is all down to the 3 specialists within this specific case. Other panels may come to a different sentencing for other cases. This is my biggest concern and leads me immediately to think that we will never see 10 points take from a team again.
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They'll change the rules next year saying 'the mistakes we learned from the Everton case showed that we were effectively increasing the chance of a club going out of business' or such like and any future penalty will be a fine of some sort and/or transfer ban. Guarantee it.
 
Goodison Groaner said:
What are Evertonians doing about their official Fantasy Premier League accounts? Quitting on mass or protesting by changing their team name.
That is what I've just done... perhaps we should all add the word 'corrupt' to our team names and see who long it takes for them to block us all!!
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Well I would have closed my Barclays account but fortunately they did it for me because I cannot supply a UK address.
Parochial lot!
 

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