6 + 2 Point Deductions

[MikeH72]

Thought I’d wandered into the Moshiri thread for a second. Is the fact that he’s Tony Fernandes on steroids relevant to points deduction discussion?

 

[Tin-Tin]

Yeah, they can't book the sale of an asset during the prior fiscal year if it occurs after the reporting date. It's a nonsense defense.

Agree but in what world taking £20m less 60 days earlier helps the club be financially responsible and sustainable.

If we could have held on and sold Richy for £70/80m for instance, thats much better for the club financially.

Newcastle can spend if they sell one of their best players, how does that help them improve.

Rules are a shambles and the more clubs at risk and kick off the better.

 

[DanB90]

Nottingham Forest: Club expect to avoid FIFA punishment over transfer administration error

Nottingham Forest expect to avoid FIFA punishment despite a transfer admin error regarding Jonjo Shelveys move to Trabzonspor last summer; the transfer was initially a loan that breached FIFAs rules on the number of international loans allowed which is seven per club

www.skysports.com

No punishment for Notts.

 

[pfim]

I weren’t suggesting they’d lend to us below market rate, I’m merely stating they’d still make a lot on a loan of that size.

I get they’re also risking a lot by lending a basket case like us those sums of money, so I kind of get it.

Tbh I’m just struggling to get my head around how bollocksed we actually are.

I'm not sure it's really dire. In normal times (no point deductions, pending sale) we shouldn't be doing much business in January anyway. But check the table at the end of March...

You put the other two variables in play, and it's much less likely we'll do anything.

And I don't have a crystal ball or access to the 2023 numbers, but just by piecing all the information together, PSR we SHOULD be fine. But that's an accounting measure.

The window generally requires cash (we can't only defer so many payments), and we have no cash because of the stadium and the ownership situation.

 

[Goodisongang]

Nottingham Forest: Club expect to avoid FIFA punishment over transfer administration error

Nottingham Forest expect to avoid FIFA punishment despite a transfer admin error regarding Jonjo Shelveys move to Trabzonspor last summer; the transfer was initially a loan that breached FIFAs rules on the number of international loans allowed which is seven per club

www.skysports.com

No punishment for Notts.

Just adds more to our appeal surely?

Not charging Notts because they know they will have to give us our points back?

 

[pfim]

Agree but in what world taking £20m less 60 days earlier helps the club be financially responsible and sustainable.

If we could have held on and sold Richy for £70/80m for instance, thats much better for the club financially.

Newcastle can spend if they sell one of their best players, how does that help them improve.

Rules are a shambles and the more clubs at risk and kick off the better.

There has to be a cutoff date in order to apply the rules, or there would be no rules to apply.

They can't make an argument saying they knew at 06/30/2023 that Johnson would garner 20m more and not injure himself before the transfer.

The sustainable part would have been not buying and paying all those mediocre or worse players (for both clubs). Then the financial need to sell those players is removed.

 

[pfim]

Nottingham Forest: Club expect to avoid FIFA punishment over transfer administration error

Nottingham Forest expect to avoid FIFA punishment despite a transfer admin error regarding Jonjo Shelveys move to Trabzonspor last summer; the transfer was initially a loan that breached FIFAs rules on the number of international loans allowed which is seven per club

www.skysports.com

No punishment for Notts.

Not related to PSR, however.

 

[Victus]

Just adds more to our appeal surely?

Not charging Notts because they know they will have to give us our points back?

That lad failed to say this is about Shelvey.

 

[magicjuan]

Just adds more to our appeal surely?

Not charging Notts because they know they will have to give us our points back?

Not charging Notts because they're not Everton

 

[DanB90]

Just adds more to our appeal surely?

Not charging Notts because they know they will have to give us our points back?

Wouldn’t hold my breath like.

Different case altogether.

 

[Bez2k2k]

Let’s have it right. This is not about ffp. However it’s strange that they have not been punished.

 

[mikel_88]

Let’s have it right. This is not about ffp. However it’s strange that they have not been punished.

Not even strange just even more stupid they went had no problem with giving us the max punishemnt but not even a fine for that for forest pathetic

 

[f.t.r.s]

Nottingham Forest: Club expect to avoid FIFA punishment over transfer administration error

Nottingham Forest expect to avoid FIFA punishment despite a transfer admin error regarding Jonjo Shelveys move to Trabzonspor last summer; the transfer was initially a loan that breached FIFAs rules on the number of international loans allowed which is seven per club

www.skysports.com

No punishment for Notts.

Course not, they're not a merseyside club bankrolled by nasty Russians

 

[blueboy72]

Let’s have it right. This is not about ffp. However it’s strange that they have not been punished.

Maybe because they will have to charge Chelsea, because haven’t they a similar complaint regarding transfers . Will probably still punish them for PSR, so it ties in with us

 

[WestStandLower]

There has to be a cutoff date in order to apply the rules, or there would be no rules to apply.

They can't make an argument saying they knew at 06/30/2023 that Johnson would garner 20m more and not injure himself before the transfer.

The sustainable part would have been not buying and paying all those mediocre or worse players (for both clubs). Then the financial need to sell those players is removed.

Going forward UEFA have already changes in that irrespective of a clubs accounting period playertrading , when it comes to squad % costs, will be over two transfer windows. It’s inevitable that the PL will follow