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Still not sure anyone outside of Moshiri and his team/advisors would know anything of the inner dealings of this takeover.
Jesus, we’ve gone from Esk gleefully willing administration to this no mark saying administration won’t save us and we’ll be freaking liquidated. Where do these people come from?
- I have spent 5 hours on the hone today
Posted by neilw*
on May 20, 2024, 9:11 pm
With people closely involved in the EFC situation, one as a reporter/observer, one working to try to bring a consortium together and another working for a lender. I cannot break confidences but:
1. There is no seriously rich interested buyer and MSP seriously do NOT want to step in. No Qataris. No funded US buyer (just another chancer).
2. The only possible consortium right now is some Evertonian names well known to us (through involvement with MSP or wider public profile) but they are well short of being able to make a bid. Even if they can it will be at best a short-term bridging move as they try to restructure and find the elusive longer-term buyer
3. MSP (perhaps because they are American) do not yet fully understand the risks of relegation, UK liquidation etc. They might be getting there slowly but do not seem to understand or want to accept that their stadium security is worthless unless Everton is a going concern in the PL. They do not want to be the one to push us over the edge but do not seem to realise they could easily lose everything. If they ever do get there maybe option 2 will become viable with their support. IF!
4. R&MF have the strongest income security and will not consider taking a haircut on loans or reducing or deferring interest - unless and until the doom clock strikes 11.59.
This all means IMO there is no path forward until:
1. MSP recognise security on stadium is worthless unless Everton are a going concern; no club, no value; and
2. R&MF recognise much of their debt will never be repaid; both a US marine style haircut & lower interest rates are needed to stabilise long-term finances
Right now neither get/accept this analysis so this summer we will be selling players (multiple) to pay final stadium costs, cover operating costs and maybe trim the R&MF loan a touch. It will require miracles from Thelwell, Dyche et al to keep our heads above water. Kicking the can down the road.
Will we survive in PL? I have no idea but I am more worried tonight than I was last night and I was mildly terrified last night. Unlike eg TheEsk I do not think we would emerge from administration without liquidation sending us to AFCEverton at eg Tier 8-11.
Sorry to be the grinch but bad though the last two years have been we are nowhere near turning a corner, at least not in any positive way.
Nobody show @matty1878
Well atleast we haven't heard from that 'Financial Guru' quoting from his backside for a while on here now. God, he just wouldn't close his trap and he wasn't even a Supporter.
Pretty sobering update on another forum.
The People's Forum: I have spent 5 hours on the hone today
With people closely involved in the EFC situation one as a reporter observer one working to try to bring a consortium together and another working for a lender. I cannot break confidences but 1. There is no seriously rich interested buyer and MSP seriously do NOT want to step in. No...members.boardhost.com
Well the reality of administration would likely be closer to "no marks" scenario than being a magic reset.
His credentials are that he has access to the interweb
5 hours on the phone to be told what everyone knows?
- I have spent 5 hours on the hone today
Posted by neilw*on May 20, 2024, 9:11 pm
With people closely involved in the EFC situation, one as a reporter/observer, one working to try to bring a consortium together and another working for a lender. I cannot break confidences but:
1. There is no seriously rich interested buyer and MSP seriously do NOT want to step in. No Qataris. No funded US buyer (just another chancer).
2. The only possible consortium right now is some Evertonian names well known to us (through involvement with MSP or wider public profile) but they are well short of being able to make a bid. Even if they can it will be at best a short-term bridging move as they try to restructure and find the elusive longer-term buyer
3. MSP (perhaps because they are American) do not yet fully understand the risks of relegation, UK liquidation etc. They might be getting there slowly but do not seem to understand or want to accept that their stadium security is worthless unless Everton is a going concern in the PL. They do not want to be the one to push us over the edge but do not seem to realise they could easily lose everything. If they ever do get there maybe option 2 will become viable with their support. IF!
4. R&MF have the strongest income security and will not consider taking a haircut on loans or reducing or deferring interest - unless and until the doom clock strikes 11.59.
This all means IMO there is no path forward until:
1. MSP recognise security on stadium is worthless unless Everton are a going concern; no club, no value; and
2. R&MF recognise much of their debt will never be repaid; both a US marine style haircut & lower interest rates are needed to stabilise long-term finances
Right now neither get/accept this analysis so this summer we will be selling players (multiple) to pay final stadium costs, cover operating costs and maybe trim the R&MF loan a touch. It will require miracles from Thelwell, Dyche et al to keep our heads above water. Kicking the can down the road.
Will we survive in PL? I have no idea but I am more worried tonight than I was last night and I was mildly terrified last night. Unlike eg TheEsk I do not think we would emerge from administration without liquidation sending us to AFCEverton at eg Tier 8-11.
Sorry to be the grinch but bad though the last two years have been we are nowhere near turning a corner, at least not in any positive way.
Nobody show @matty1878
Bloody hell mate... Americans not understanding relegation is casual racism? I'll have to remember not to bring this up in front American friends so's not to cause embarrassment
