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NiceHe actually prefers DoF Vader
My guess would be that a big investor might invest in their football operation as a whole. While their portfolio is underwhelming the model is sound and they have appointed credible people.Why would a ‘massive invester’ invest through such a shady grouping when he could do it himself?
Unless he was shady himself , I suppose,
Either way I think that is entirely wishful thinking.
Different circumstances entirely though .Uncle Usi says hi 🖐
Exactly. That's why I voted unsure. Let's see what the Premier League executives say. Mind you, if they allow it and it goes pear-shaped then there'll be those who say they want us to go to the wall.Think we should retain an open mind at this stage.
Judge them on their actions, rather than all the noise.
I've read this three times and still struggling to get it. Is your point that 777 takes insurance on it's own clubs as a way of hedging the investment?I'm quite livid about that don't ask don't tell post, so I am gonna voice my deepest darkest concern about 777 in the event of a positive outcome for the club in the interim. Say the stadium is finished and safe and we stave off relegation for a year. My fears shot up when I read that Wander interview on FT(an outlet for the money people right), first read it as a fan, then understood my mistake and read it as a potential investor. So when he says we have not sufficiently commercialized the product, is he talking about the club or the fans? Consider the fact he says that the fans' intense engagement means that the fans are begging to be monetized.
So then what is this insurance or financial services he speaks of in place of hotdogs and beer to their 'customers'? Insurance is typically when you pay a moderate amount of money in the hope that you get coverage based on the community's efforts (individual direct payments or company investments) to maintain the system in the event of a personal negative event (accident, death, or such). Are fans really going to have such personal events related to the club or is it more conceivable that the personage in question is the club itself? Hence, you sell the owners or potential investors of these clubs insurance to ensure that negative events associated with the club are covered not directly by the investors but by the community effort (i.e. fans first, the club next, and then the investors). This would work only if it is a multi-club model with unique investment partners. So the fast-tracked purchase of the multiple clubs may have been a necessary rather than a sufficient condition.
The fans are essentially there to produce the community effort necessary to not only run our club but also to cover other potential clubs in the event of any negative events (even from mismanagement). In all of this, it begs the question what insurance will these take out (there could be complete nonchalance toward the actual footballing operations)? You win a cup, you get relegated, or you dissolve the club, the portion of the investment is insured. Hertha's previous owner took a stake in the 777 partnership in exchange for the sale.
Is there any positive spin on this model or a possibility of fans(?) having financial services for positive events?
Football Insider (via BBC gossip) reported yesterday that Thelwell submitted three recruitment plans to 777 and got a very cold response and there are concerns within the club about their intentions to invest in the squad. Questionable source I know, although they called Beto if I recall, but concerning if so.
While I understand the stadium is the key to unlock increased revenues etc, those are only likely to be realised with a PL team on the pitch. Hopefully hogwash.
Why would Thelwell have submitted recruitment plans to people who weren't owners of the club?
Completely different people and situations really. The Bobble seems to have genuine inside sources and quite often posts reliable information mostly to do with team stuff such as transfers etc. The Esk is into financials, doesn't really have any genuine inside information but is pretty adept at it all and always says that his information is his thoughts and opinions only so sometimes gets things right and sometimes gets things wrong, receives a lot of flak sometimes unjustified but definitely has a better understanding of the financial goings on than most other fans do.So who do we rate higher
El Bobble or The Esk
This might be overthinking it a touch. I think it’s more “if we own an insurance company and Everton could we stick a club badge on our insurance products and would people buy it?”.I'm quite livid about that don't ask don't tell post, so I am gonna voice my deepest darkest concern about 777 in the event of a positive outcome for the club in the interim. Say the stadium is finished and safe and we stave off relegation for a year. My fears shot up when I read that Wander interview on FT(an outlet for the money people right), first read it as a fan, then understood my mistake and read it as a potential investor. So when he says we have not sufficiently commercialized the product, is he talking about the club or the fans? Consider the fact he says that the fans' intense engagement means that the fans are begging to be monetized.
So then what is this insurance or financial services he speaks of in place of hotdogs and beer to their 'customers'? Insurance is typically when you pay a moderate amount of money in the hope that you get coverage based on the community's efforts (individual direct payments or company investments) to maintain the system in the event of a personal negative event (accident, death, or such). Are fans really going to have such personal events related to the club or is it more conceivable that the personage in question is the club itself? Hence, you sell the owners or potential investors of these clubs insurance to ensure that negative events associated with the club are covered not directly by the investors but by the community effort (i.e. fans first, the club next, and then the investors). This would work only if it is a multi-club model with unique investment partners. So the fast-tracked purchase of the multiple clubs may have been a necessary rather than a sufficient condition.
The fans are essentially there to produce the community effort necessary to not only run our club but also to cover other potential clubs in the event of any negative events (even from mismanagement). In all of this, it begs the question what insurance will these take out (there could be complete nonchalance toward the actual footballing operations)? You win a cup, you get relegated, or you dissolve the club, the portion of the investment is insured. Hertha's previous owner took a stake in the 777 partnership in exchange for the sale.
Is there any positive spin on this model or a possibility of fans(?) having financial services for positive events?
Especially with tops off.@The Bobble v @The Esk with your tops off in a phone box having a chest off...how about it lads?