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Confirmed Signing Amadou Onana

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Simon Buttle said:
This stuff is a coaching issue though it's not a medical issue. Our issue that we have at the club is in the area of sporting/player performance, our players can't stay fit and can't put together individual runs of personal form, this is an issue with fitness and conditioning of the first team, the medical staff are there for rehab and recovery. As a physiologist looking in from the outside Id say one of our big problems is Finch Farm, Id love to know how many players have been injured at FF compared to in a game scenario. Id do anything to go have a nose about FF there is something weird goes on there, people have said the ground is very hard there although Id be surprised in this day and age if they can't sort the pitch out.
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It’s quite clearly built on some ancient burial ground.

It’s the only logical explanation.
 
Dixie1sixty said:
How can you blame the medical team for this?

They don't have magic powers you know.
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Medical team/ condition team - whichever department is in charge of injury prevention at Everton isn’t doing a good job.

We keep having these injuries written off as ‘freak’ injuries but when they keep happening they’re obviously not just random are they.

Ask yourself the honest question how many times you’ve been at Goodison and the stretcher has been on and players consoling our player on the floor. For some fans in other teams they might be able to remember the one time that happened in the last five or so years, for us it’s once or twice every season.

The last ten years alone off the top of my head:

Oviedo (leg break)
Coleman (leg break)
Arouna Kone (ACL)
Lacina Traore (hamstring on debut missed his entire loan period)
McCarthy (leg break)
Besic (ACL)
Barkley (torn hamstring)
Bolasie (ACL)
Keane (gashed foot, needed enlarged boots)
Tosun (ACL X 2)
Mangala (ACL)
Gomes (broken Ankle)
Gbamin (ACL, Achilles back to back)
Delph (various)
Doucoure (broken foot)
DCL (quad)
Patterson (ankle)
Mina (various)
Godfrey (broken leg)


These are just the horrible career shattering ones I can remember, it doesn’t even include the standard ones we pick up all the time (Allan, James, DvB missed most of his loan, Godfrey missed second half of last season). Fortunately it’s not gone as far back as the 09 season when we had four knee ligament ruptures in one season.

We will never move forward as a football club if we can’t get our best players consistently on the pitch. Sure some teams will have picked up the odd bad injury here or there, or the odd sickening one, but I doubt anyone has a rap sheet that bad of absolutely sickening injuries. They destroy careers, wipe value off players, and completely undermine managers.

Martinez might have made too 4 if he’d had either Kone or Traore to call on at all. Silva is arguably still in a job if he has those midfielders fit for him. I’m sure Koeman probably wanted his 30 mill Bolasie to play more than a handful of games. How many times could Carlo put out the midfield he wanted? I’m sure Benitez would have wanted Mina Doucoure DCL fit. Lampard wanted DvB and Patterson to make an impact. They’re not available to them.

It’s the biggest problem at Everton by a country mile. Here we are again, one game into the new season and the current players unavailable read:

Godfrey (3 months) Mina (unknown) DCL (6 weeks) Coleman - after one game!

It’s just ridiculous
 

Saint Domingo said:
Medical team/ condition team - whichever department is in charge of injury prevention at Everton isn’t doing a good job.

We keep having these injuries written off as ‘freak’ injuries but when they keep happening they’re obviously not just random are they.

Ask yourself the honest question how many times you’ve been at Goodison and the stretcher has been on and players consoling our player on the floor. For some fans in other teams they might be able to remember the one time that happened in the last five or so years, for us it’s once or twice every season.

The last ten years alone off the top of my head:

Oviedo (leg break)
Coleman (leg break)
Arouna Kone (ACL)
Lacina Traore (hamstring on debut missed his entire loan period)
McCarthy (leg break)
Besic (ACL)
Barkley (torn hamstring)
Bolasie (ACL)
Keane (gashed foot, needed enlarged boots)
Gomes (broken Ankle)
Gbamin (ACL, Achilles back to back)
Delph (various)
Doucoure (broken foot)
DCL (quad)
Patterson (ankle)
Mina (various)
Godfrey (broken leg)


These are just the horrible career shattering ones I can remember, it doesn’t even include the standard ones we pick up all the time (Allan, James, DvB missed most of his loan, Godfrey missed second half of last season). Fortunately it’s not gone as far back as the 09 season when we had four knee ligament ruptures in one season.

We will never move forward as a football club if we can’t get our best players consistently on the pitch. Sure some teams will have picked up the odd bad injury here or there, or the odd sickening one, but I doubt anyone has a rap sheet that bad of absolutely sickening injuries. They destroy careers, wipe value off players, and completely undermine managers.

Silva is arguably still in a job if he has those midfielders fit for him. I’m sure Koeman probably wanted his 30 mill Bolasie to play more than a handful of games. How many times could Carlo put out the midfield he wanted? I’m sure Benitez would have wanted Mina Doucoure DCL fit. Lampard wanted DvB and Patterson to make an impact. They’re not available to them.

It’s the biggest problem at Everton by a country mile. Here we are again, one game into the new season and the current players unavailable read:

Godfrey (3 months) Mina (unknown) DCL (6 weeks) Coleman - after one game!

It’s just ridiculous
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I’m not sure you can blame broken bones on the medical department. All the jarg soft tissue and muscle injuries, fair enough.

But broken bones are just unfortunate circumstances which sometimes happen when playing a contact sport.
 
Saint Domingo said:
Medical team/ condition team - whichever department is in charge of injury prevention at Everton isn’t doing a good job.

We keep having these injuries written off as ‘freak’ injuries but when they keep happening they’re obviously not just random are they.

Ask yourself the honest question how many times you’ve been at Goodison and the stretcher has been on and players consoling our player on the floor. For some fans in other teams they might be able to remember the one time that happened in the last five or so years, for us it’s once or twice every season.

The last ten years alone off the top of my head:

Oviedo (leg break)
Coleman (leg break)
Arouna Kone (ACL)
Lacina Traore (hamstring on debut missed his entire loan period)
McCarthy (leg break)
Besic (ACL)
Barkley (torn hamstring)
Bolasie (ACL)
Keane (gashed foot, needed enlarged boots)
Tosun (ACL X 2)
Gomes (broken Ankle)
Gbamin (ACL, Achilles back to back)
Delph (various)
Doucoure (broken foot)
DCL (quad)
Patterson (ankle)
Mina (various)
Godfrey (broken leg)


These are just the horrible career shattering ones I can remember, it doesn’t even include the standard ones we pick up all the time (Allan, James, DvB missed most of his loan, Godfrey missed second half of last season). Fortunately it’s not gone as far back as the 09 season when we had four knee ligament ruptures in one season.

We will never move forward as a football club if we can’t get our best players consistently on the pitch. Sure some teams will have picked up the odd bad injury here or there, or the odd sickening one, but I doubt anyone has a rap sheet that bad of absolutely sickening injuries. They destroy careers, wipe value off players, and completely undermine managers.

Martinez might have made too 4 if he’d had either Kone or Traore to call on at all. Silva is arguably still in a job if he has those midfielders fit for him. I’m sure Koeman probably wanted his 30 mill Bolasie to play more than a handful of games. How many times could Carlo put out the midfield he wanted? I’m sure Benitez would have wanted Mina Doucoure DCL fit. Lampard wanted DvB and Patterson to make an impact. They’re not available to them.

It’s the biggest problem at Everton by a country mile. Here we are again, one game into the new season and the current players unavailable read:

Godfrey (3 months) Mina (unknown) DCL (6 weeks) Coleman - after one game!

It’s just ridiculous
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You need to go for a lie down mate.

You are chatting unparalleled amounts of wham. Doesn't matter how conditioned you are, a leg break can happen. Freak injuries happen. I think we've been unlucky but if you think it's because of the medical team then I'll have some of what you're smoking please.
 
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Dixie1sixty said:
You need to go for a lie down mate.

You are chatting unparalleled amounts of wham. Doesn't matter how conditioned you are, a leg break can happen. Freak injuries happen. I think we've been unlucky but if you think it's because of the medical team then I'll have some of what you're smoking please.
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I mean Andre Gomes’ foot was facing the completely wrong way following a challenge by an opponent.

That bloody medical department! *shakes fist vigorously*
 

DanB90 said:
I’m not sure you can blame broken bones on the medical department. All the jarg soft tissue and muscle injuries, fair enough.

But broken bones are just unfortunate circumstances which sometimes happen when playing a contact sport.
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Why don’t they happen that often to other clubs then?

Even Godfrey’s tackle, yeah he’s rushing into a late tackle but it didn’t need to end up in a broken leg.

We’re either massively unfortunate with injuries (and have been so over a long period), or there’s something that’s part of the players conditioning/ training/ injury prevention that leaves them susceptible to getting major injuries.

Or we can keep blaming bad luck and keep having the same problems every single season.
 

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