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2018/19 Andre Gomes

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If he can perform to upwards of 90% of his capability/ability for 30 plus games he could have a huge bearing on how successful we are in the next few years.
If the rest of the team can match the last 3rd of last season, we could be close to something good.
 
chopper6 said:
The art of retaining the ball under pressure, turning players, then finding a pass is something not many midfielders have. The art of keeping possession when others flap and concede it. The art of keeping us on the front foot.

We certainly don’t have another midfielder capable of those things. Tacklers, assisters, scorers - quite possibly. But not the attributes in my first paragraph.

Anyone who questions whether he’d be a regular starter for us needs a check up from the neck up.
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Agree entirely.
Remember watching Martin Dobson for us as a boy. Reminds me very much of him. God , how old have I got.
Class players , both of them !
 
BlueToff said:
I know we have a tendency to overrate players, but he'd get into all of the top six sides' midfielders apart from City and Liverpool, imo.

It's not just that he's better than what they have, it's that he offers different to what they have.

Spurs have the best midfield out of the 4 so don't HAVE to spend big on that area (plus, they need the wages and fee elsewhere).
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He'd get in the Liverpool midfield imo. Henderson & Milner nothing special . Keita for 50mil was hardly fantastic. And I even think wyjanldum is overrated. Then again all Liverpool players are overrated.

With the tedious links to mbappe, I seen a Liverpool journalist asking the question, who of the front 3 do you leave out and he wasn’t sure he’d be a starter.

Liverpool basically have have a great defence, with fantastic full backs and a excellent front 3. Their midfield is the weakest part of their team.
 
Stephenlloyd said:
He'd get in the Liverpool midfield imo. Henderson & Milner nothing special . Keita for 50mil was hardly fantastic. And I even think wyjanldum is overrated. Then again all Liverpool players are overrated.

With the tedious links to mbappe, I seen a Liverpool journalist asking the question, who of the front 3 do you leave out and he wasn’t sure he’d be a starter.

Liverpool basically have have a great defence, with fantastic full backs and a excellent front 3. Their midfield is the weakest part of their team.
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The reason I didn't include Liverpool is that while none of their midfielders have the ability on the ball that Gomes does, they do all work brilliantly in that Klopp system and that can't be denied.

You might say Wijnaldum is overrated, but look at the crucial goals he's scored for them, and he can play anywhere in that three, either holding, box-to-box or the furthest forward.

So yes, while a lot of Liverpool's play skips out their midfield and on the face of it I'd say Gomes is better, I can't reasonably say that he'd get into their side, because of how they play.
 
Stooping header from Sport at the far post.

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André Gomes se queda en el Everton

André Gomes seguirá en el Everton, que abonará 25 millones más incentivos al FC Barcelona por el traspasoTras completar su cesión en el Everton
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Midfielder André Gomes will be one of the first FC Barcelona players to confirm his departure from Barça .

André Gomes stays at Everton

After completing his loan at Everton, the Portuguese player has finally decided to stay with the English club with whom he is currently negotiating the terms of his contract.

Much has been speculated about possible destinations for the midfielder, who went left Barca without finishing the expectations with which he came to the club, yet it seems that with the Liverpool team, he has found his home.

Tottenham and especially West Ham were interested at the time to take his services but finally will sign with the team he joined on loan.

FC Barcelona and Everton agreed the transfer by 25 million plus some bonuses virtually recovering the amount that Barça invested in their purchase - the 35 million paid to Valencia in the 2016-17 season. So it would be a good move for the Barca budget.

André Gomes is happy in Liverpool where he has achieved a much more decisive role under the orders of his compatriot Marco Silva, hence he has decided to stay. After the agreement between clubs, it is the player who is negotiating with the Everton board and the conditions of the contract to close the move finally.
 

BlueToff said:
The reason I didn't include Liverpool is that while none of their midfielders have the ability on the ball that Gomes does, they do all work brilliantly in that Klopp system and that can't be denied.

You might say Wijnaldum is overrated, but look at the crucial goals he's scored for them, and he can play anywhere in that three, either holding, box-to-box or the furthest forward.

So yes, while a lot of Liverpool's play skips out their midfield and on the face of it I'd say Gomes is better, I can't reasonably say that he'd get into their side, because of how they play.
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I get your point.
But I would say it’s no coincidence that while city & Liverpool both have great defences and the best defensive records. A lot of that is the fear opposing teams have of them and are reluctant to attack and over commit.

I think I could play defensive midfield fir them. I’m not so sure wijnaldum could play the holding role for us.

I think Gomes would suit a 433 with a natural number 6 and him playing either side. I’ve heard people mention Dembele(spurs) and that’s who I thought about when he first started to hit form for us. Dembele struggled at spurs in his first year or two, signed at a similar age and once he found his feet he was a beast for 3/4 years. And he starts weren’t great in terms of goals and assists, but he just bosses the middle of the pitch.
 
Stephenlloyd said:
He'd get in the Liverpool midfield imo. Henderson & Milner nothing special . Keita for 50mil was hardly fantastic. And I even think wyjanldum is overrated. Then again all Liverpool players are overrated.

With the tedious links to mbappe, I seen a Liverpool journalist asking the question, who of the front 3 do you leave out and he wasn’t sure he’d be a starter.

Liverpool basically have have a great defence, with fantastic full backs and a excellent front 3. Their midfield is the weakest part of their team.
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BlueToff said:
The reason I didn't include Liverpool is that while none of their midfielders have the ability on the ball that Gomes does, they do all work brilliantly in that Klopp system and that can't be denied.

You might say Wijnaldum is overrated, but look at the crucial goals he's scored for them, and he can play anywhere in that three, either holding, box-to-box or the furthest forward.

So yes, while a lot of Liverpool's play skips out their midfield and on the face of it I'd say Gomes is better, I can't reasonably say that he'd get into their side, because of how they play.
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Stephenlloyd said:
I get your point.
But I would say it’s no coincidence that while city & Liverpool both have great defences and the best defensive records. A lot of that is the fear opposing teams have of them and are reluctant to attack and over commit.

I think I could play defensive midfield fir them. I’m not so sure wijnaldum could play the holding role for us.

I think Gomes would suit a 433 with a natural number 6 and him playing either side. I’ve heard people mention Dembele(spurs) and that’s who I thought about when he first started to hit form for us. Dembele struggled at spurs in his first year or two, signed at a similar age and once he found his feet he was a beast for 3/4 years. And he starts weren’t great in terms of goals and assists, but he just bosses the middle of the pitch.
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On form, he gets into any team bar City imo.

The issue for me is his consistency and his lack of defensive nous.

I think he's a good player to have in this period but I'd be disappointed if we didnt sign a more mobile midfielder as well.

The fee is about right, i was hovering between £20-25mil in what I thought he was worth to Barca.

Now he appears to be tied down we should be able to go after players who compliment him.
 

Deco said:
Absolute bargain at the rumoured £22m. He’s boss and keeping him was so important.

Assuming we get it wrapped up this week as reported, it’s nice to get such a key signing in early on.
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2 days of medical and 1 day of a cameraman sprinting round FF with a go-pro on his head for the announcement vid, then we’re onto the weekend where transfers are completely against the law

I’m going 10:11 Monday morning
 
I’d say he starts for every team in the league bar Chelsea and city.

Pool don’t have somebody that can hit passes like he does, United are only really have pogba, Spurs need to replace dembele and arsenal are average outside of torrents and Xhaka
 

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