Chewbacca
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Heinous
And don’t get me started on the Mustang Mach-E
Porsches and Mustangs should not be 2 tonne soccer moms minibuses
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And don’t get me started on the Mustang Mach-E
Porsches and Mustangs should not be 2 tonne soccer moms minibuses
Chewbacca
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That’s a 2 tonne SUV, not a 2 tonne soccer mom although someone will be along shortly to say he would shag a 2 tonne soccer mom anyday
Yeah, I figured sports car manufacturers that moved into the family-SUV sector would bring about a lot of negative opinions. I've never been a "car guy" and I just drive a boring Subaru Forester, but I will fully admit the Cayenne and the Audi equivalent are appealing to me, soccer-mom vehicles and all. But that said, I probably wouldn't spend 60-90K on a vehicle even if I had the disposable money to do so.
I was driving through New Jersey last year and saw a Lamborghini SUV. I had to do a double, then triple take to make sure I was correct. I since googled the price and it's like 220K USD. Insane!
Was going to say exactly this, and if she's driving a fast car, vrooommmm!
Seathestars
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I’ve got a petrol E-Pace. Drinks juice like it’s going out of fashion. Lovely little car but a gas guzzler. Once the payments are up I’m thinking about the I-pace but £70,000 wowser.
I suppose I could work out on average how much I’ve spent on petrol in 4 years then convert it to the cost of the I-pace.
But whatever, Hatfields on the river by Dingle have been fantastic to be fair to them.
Had an Audi before that and Audi by Sandhills were not anywhere close to Jaguar for after sales service and service in general
Chewbacca
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A Subaru is way more interesting than any Audi. I’ve had both (a Legacy and an A3) and the Subaru way way better built and more fun to drive.
If you're going the Porsche route, what you want is the GT3-RS and a good accidental death/dismemberment policy.
YOLO
There's dozens of 2018 and 2019 models out there with less than 20k mileage for £40k - £55k. Never have bought a new car and never will, I'm happy for someone else to suck up all the depreciation over the first 18 months or so.
Wouldn't touch an Audi if you paid me - can't stand them.
The binman chronicles
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He can't be, he hasn't said "it's the fastest car in the world" yet.
and on that bombshell.....
AndyC
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I'll get to the Cayenne next time I get one to drive, won't be too long, and can take pictures. The last one I drove wasn't great on fuel economy but will offer more details as and when
AndyC
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As people have been asking, todays update is... Tesla Model 3 Performance
Quite where to start with the Tesla Model 3 is the question as it's - in my opinion - a superb car.
First off, Tesla has had build quality issues but are fast eradicating them. Most of if not all of the build quality issues - door alignment, panel gaps and paint blemishes - are predominantly on cars produced in their US factories.
I'm reliably informed (I'm fortunate to know someone who works for Tesla) that the Model 3 being produced in Giga Shanghai are not encountering the same issues, and Tesla are well aware that when their Giga Berlin plant comes on stream and production starts on Model 3 and Model Y around August time this year, build quality for the European market is of absolute paramount importance.
European car buyers used to the build quality of the likes of Mercedes, Audi, BMW, Volvo, etc will not tolerate the kind of issues that have until recent times been too often found in the US. I'm sure many of our US based forum members will correct me if I'm wrong but, there are lots of videos on YouTube that attest to earlier problems.
Now back to this Model 3 Performance and again as there are so many YouTube videos about the 15-inch centre screen that controls just about everything, I won't bore y'all with my explanations on it. It does take a bit of getting used to, especially whilst driving so a good idea is to have a 'play' with the screen before setting off on a journey.
The in-built Sat-Nav is excellent and once you've programmed in your destination, the car will show the route and the charging points en-route should there not be enough charge in the cars battery pack.
With no engine and gearbox taking up space in the front and necessitating a central hump where the centre console is, storage space in the Model 3 is excellent. The rear boot (trunk to our US readers) is large and has an underfloor area too meaning suitcases and gold clubs etc can easily be accommodated, and the front boot (frunk to the US readers) offers more load space for smaller items or backpacks.
To the real nitty gritty, and how does it drive?
Seating is very comfortable and lanky people like me have no issue getting settled in for a long drive. With no dashboard hump housing speedometers and rev counters, forward vision is excellent. The column mounted gearshift is Mercedes stock equipment and simply press down to drive, up to reverse and press the button on the end to engage parking brake.
With the car being electric, there is no noise so press the brake pedal, engage Drive, press the accelerator and away you go... and if you put that pedal to the metal, the acceleration is quite frankly... ASTONISHING !!!
Whatever you may have read in serious automotive publications - like WhatCar or watched on YouTube - about Tesla cars being quick is no joke, the Performance model is beyond rapid, it's race track quick and pins you to the seat!!!
Steering is precise, the suspension could be a tad softer but the car corners well with very, very little if any under or over steer.
In terms of economy, electric cars are subject to variable miles per charge returns. In good, daylight, weather the reported 350+ miles per full charge is achievable... in very cold weather (below zero) and at night in rain where you'll need the heating lights and wipers on, then these niceties obviously eat into the electric charge and cause a reduction in range.
That said, it's not overly dramatic and the Sat-Nav will clearly advise when and where you need to stop to find a charging point to top up the batteries. Use the Tesla Supercharger network for the quickest recharge rates and while the car is plugged in, grab a coffee, and or take a leak while it tops up. Adding around 150 miles of charge takes around 25-35 minutes, and the car display screen advises the state of charge and the cost to go against your credit card.
One thing to be aware of is the Model 3 now enjoys one pedal driving, literally you can drive almost exclusively on the throttle pedal as when you ease off it, the cars regenerative braking kicks in. Now this can be a bit alarming at first as unlike Internal Combustion Engine cars that 'sail' or 'coast' when you ease off the gas, the regenerative braking on the Tesla kicks in and this helps recharge the batteries. Initially, it's a bit of a shock but you get used to it fairly quickly.
Maintenance is literally next to nothing as with no engine, gearbox and drive axle to go wrong, the need for oil changes etc is nil. And the regenerative braking means you actually use the brake pedal so much less that brake wear is reduced too.
My marks out of ten...
Comfort 8
Fuel Economy 8
Performance 9.5
Reliability 8
Practicality 8
And as up front, in my opinion, the Tesla Model 3 is a superb car, the Performance model is outstanding if performance is what you're really after.
Quite where to start with the Tesla Model 3 is the question as it's - in my opinion - a superb car.
First off, Tesla has had build quality issues but are fast eradicating them. Most of if not all of the build quality issues - door alignment, panel gaps and paint blemishes - are predominantly on cars produced in their US factories.
I'm reliably informed (I'm fortunate to know someone who works for Tesla) that the Model 3 being produced in Giga Shanghai are not encountering the same issues, and Tesla are well aware that when their Giga Berlin plant comes on stream and production starts on Model 3 and Model Y around August time this year, build quality for the European market is of absolute paramount importance.
European car buyers used to the build quality of the likes of Mercedes, Audi, BMW, Volvo, etc will not tolerate the kind of issues that have until recent times been too often found in the US. I'm sure many of our US based forum members will correct me if I'm wrong but, there are lots of videos on YouTube that attest to earlier problems.
Now back to this Model 3 Performance and again as there are so many YouTube videos about the 15-inch centre screen that controls just about everything, I won't bore y'all with my explanations on it. It does take a bit of getting used to, especially whilst driving so a good idea is to have a 'play' with the screen before setting off on a journey.
The in-built Sat-Nav is excellent and once you've programmed in your destination, the car will show the route and the charging points en-route should there not be enough charge in the cars battery pack.
With no engine and gearbox taking up space in the front and necessitating a central hump where the centre console is, storage space in the Model 3 is excellent. The rear boot (trunk to our US readers) is large and has an underfloor area too meaning suitcases and gold clubs etc can easily be accommodated, and the front boot (frunk to the US readers) offers more load space for smaller items or backpacks.
To the real nitty gritty, and how does it drive?
Seating is very comfortable and lanky people like me have no issue getting settled in for a long drive. With no dashboard hump housing speedometers and rev counters, forward vision is excellent. The column mounted gearshift is Mercedes stock equipment and simply press down to drive, up to reverse and press the button on the end to engage parking brake.
With the car being electric, there is no noise so press the brake pedal, engage Drive, press the accelerator and away you go... and if you put that pedal to the metal, the acceleration is quite frankly... ASTONISHING !!!
Whatever you may have read in serious automotive publications - like WhatCar or watched on YouTube - about Tesla cars being quick is no joke, the Performance model is beyond rapid, it's race track quick and pins you to the seat!!!
Steering is precise, the suspension could be a tad softer but the car corners well with very, very little if any under or over steer.
In terms of economy, electric cars are subject to variable miles per charge returns. In good, daylight, weather the reported 350+ miles per full charge is achievable... in very cold weather (below zero) and at night in rain where you'll need the heating lights and wipers on, then these niceties obviously eat into the electric charge and cause a reduction in range.
That said, it's not overly dramatic and the Sat-Nav will clearly advise when and where you need to stop to find a charging point to top up the batteries. Use the Tesla Supercharger network for the quickest recharge rates and while the car is plugged in, grab a coffee, and or take a leak while it tops up. Adding around 150 miles of charge takes around 25-35 minutes, and the car display screen advises the state of charge and the cost to go against your credit card.
One thing to be aware of is the Model 3 now enjoys one pedal driving, literally you can drive almost exclusively on the throttle pedal as when you ease off it, the cars regenerative braking kicks in. Now this can be a bit alarming at first as unlike Internal Combustion Engine cars that 'sail' or 'coast' when you ease off the gas, the regenerative braking on the Tesla kicks in and this helps recharge the batteries. Initially, it's a bit of a shock but you get used to it fairly quickly.
Maintenance is literally next to nothing as with no engine, gearbox and drive axle to go wrong, the need for oil changes etc is nil. And the regenerative braking means you actually use the brake pedal so much less that brake wear is reduced too.
My marks out of ten...
Comfort 8
Fuel Economy 8
Performance 9.5
Reliability 8
Practicality 8
And as up front, in my opinion, the Tesla Model 3 is a superb car, the Performance model is outstanding if performance is what you're really after.
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AndyC
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Have to say briefly, the Panamera would be my preferred Porsche too... bloody expensive though.
AndyC
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peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Sounds foreign....
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