Are we all becoming woke snowflakes?

[Noisy noise annoys]

Not really the point though is it, either it's fine to label people according to race or it isn't.

And I thought the argument was that if the person who is receiving the abuse is offended then that's what matters.

I don't find the term offensive but I find it pathetic, a label attached to people to shut down or say their opinion isn't worth listening to. Debating the person and not the argument.

I find it completely hypocritical and lazy as terminology, I just lose respect for people when I see it used.

While I toally accept your point, the fact is, the term Gammon would not need to be used if they didn't abuse people. THe fact the long silent monority have now got a term that gets right up the nose of their abusers is actually poetic and beautifully ironic. The world would be a better place if we didn't need the term gammon, however, we do and until they stop being tits then they need to be aware that their targets for hate will fight fire with fire. You'll be upset that the Ukes are having a go back at Russians next as it is hypocritical.

Also, they are not labelled because of their race. They are labelled for their attitude towards other (who tends not to be white).

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

While I toally accept your point, the fact is, the term Gammon would not need to be used if they didn't abuse people. THe fact the long silent monority have now got a term that gets right up the nose of their abusers is actually poetic and beautifully ironic. The world would be a better place if we didn't need the term gammon, however, we do and until they stop being tits then they need to be aware that their targets for hate will fight fire with fire. You'll be upset that the Ukes are having a go back at Russians next as it is hypocritical.

Also, they are not labelled because of their race. They are labelled for their attitude towards other (who tends not to be white).

I disagree completely, I think the term diminishes someone's argument vastly.

Personal abuse also runs the risk of making someone's views more entrenched, in the same way I thought labelling the entirity of the population who were thinking about voting Leave as racists rather than making an argument about the benefits of remaining in the EU.

They may not be labelled because of their race but if it is a term that can only be applied to a specific race (or gender, or age) then it still fits the criteria of a racial term in my book.

I think it's lazy and childish as a term, the Ukrainian analogy I won't dignify with a response.

 

[Oddball]

While I toally accept your point, the fact is, the term Gammon would not need to be used if they didn't abuse people. THe fact the long silent monority have now got a term that gets right up the nose of their abusers is actually poetic and beautifully ironic. The world would be a better place if we didn't need the term gammon, however, we do and until they stop being tits then they need to be aware that their targets for hate will fight fire with fire. You'll be upset that the Ukes are having a go back at Russians next as it is hypocritical.

Also, they are not labelled because of their race. They are labelled for their attitude towards other (who tends not to be white).

are you truly a champion of the voiceless dispossessed or do you pick and choose? i`m asking because there are countless worthy causes out there and i`m wondering how you prioritise. also, do you look at both sides objectively and then make a balanced assessment, i`m asking because nothing is ever black and white and you seem to be quite fervent in your views while at the same time appearing to think that name calling is somehow a solution

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I disagree completely, I think the term diminishes someone's argument vastly.

Personal abuse also runs the risk of making someone's views more entrenched, in the same way I thought labelling the entirity of the population who were thinking about voting Leave as racists rather than making an argument about the benefits of remaining in the EU.

They may not be labelled because of their race but if it is a term that can only be applied to a specific race (or gender, or age) then it still fits the criteria of a racial term in my book.

I think it's lazy and childish as a term, the Ukrainian analogy I won't dignify with a response.

Fair enough. I think they deserve everything they get and the fact they get so wound up by it, says it all really. If you don't want to get called a c*** don't act a c***

As for diminishing their arguement, there needn't be an argument, they shold just leave people be.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

are you truly a champion of the voiceless dispossessed or do you pick and choose? i`m asking because there are countless worthy causes out there and i`m wondering how you prioritise. also, do you look at both sides objectively and then make a balanced assessment, i`m asking because nothing is ever black and white and you seem to be quite fervent in your views while at the same time appearing to think that name calling is somehow a solution

Mate, I am clear in the fact if you don't want to be called a c***, don't act like a c***
I do not think about any of these people from one month to the next, however, when they start crying that they can no longer call people poofs, queers, spazs, slags, p**** and n***** then I feel happy, even more so when the simple term "gammon" offends them! They have gotten away with it for far too long and basically, don't like it up 'em. Bullies and bigots

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Fair enough. I think they deserve everything they get and the fact they get so wound up by it, says it all really. If you don't want to get called a c*** don't act a c***

As for diminishing their arguement, there needn't be an argument, they shold just leave people be.

I like leaving people be, I do agree with that.

But there will always be an argument, there will always be discussion, it's human nature.

If someone's views are idiotic and small minded then expose that view for what it is and persuade them to see it differently. Some people you will never change but that's life. To say we need a term like gammon suggests their is no rational discussion to be had and someone doesn't have the words to do anything but make personal insults which I just find a bit sad all told.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I like leaving people be, I do agree with that.

But there will always be an argument, there will always be discussion, it's human nature.

If someone's views are idiotic and small minded then expose that view for what it is and persuade them to see it differently. Some people you will never change but that's life. To say we need a term like gammon suggests their is no rational discussion to be had and someone doesn't have the words to do anything but make personal insults which I just find a bit sad all told.

But there was no discussion , it was aggressive, negative finger pointing and commenting. It has gone on forever, and it seems like the victims finally (thanks internet) have a voice.

As for rational discussion..with a bully??

Anyway, I am going to bed, I got a halo to polish!

Peace to all.

 

[Oddball]

Fair enough. I think they deserve everything they get and the fact they get so wound up by it, says it all really. If you don't want to get called a c*** don't act a c***

As for diminishing their arguement, there needn't be an argument, they shold just leave people be.

the real world isn`t like that though mate, theres no `should` about it in reality. i could say people shouldnt watch X Factor, stab people or rob old ladies but it happens.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

the real world isn`t like that though mate, theres no `should` about it in reality. i could say people shouldnt watch X Factor, stab people or rob old ladies but it happens.

Yeh, but don’t cry when you get called out for it

 

[Oddball]

Yeh, but don’t cry when you get called out for it

called out for what?

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

called out for what?

Something to do with stabbing and robbing

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

But there was no discussion , it was aggressive, negative finger pointing and commenting. It has gone on forever, and it seems like the victims finally (thanks internet) have a voice.

As for rational discussion..with a bully??

Anyway, I am going to bed, I got a halo to polish!

Peace to all.

The term gammon does not give victims a voice. It has done literally nothing to further the cause of anyone suffering abuse themselves.

Peace and love.

 

[Oddball]

Something to do with stabbing and robbing

sorry mate, your joke went over my head. i didn`t understand you meant i was the one who stabbed that old lady while she was watching X Factor ...edit i heard she got robbed too

 

[Goat]

The term gammon does not give victims a voice. It has done literally nothing to further the cause of anyone suffering abuse themselves.

Peace and love.

But, I dont want to hear what they have to say, so I can just call them a gammon and move on.

I dont understand why you want to waste time talking to them.

Pete is a prime example of the type of people you are engaging with.

 

[degsy]

This! What is to stop talented writers and show runners creating new, interesting female characters of their own, rather than shouting "equality" while copying and riding on the backs of male characters? I can't be the only one who sees the irony of this.

I stopped watching Dr Who because each episode became a lecture, and because the actor was a panicky mouth breather when they were supposed to be intelligent alien, not because of their gender.

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