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Beer, revisited

I'll be amazed if Guinness haven't brewed enough...bare in mind Guinness have one of the best marketing teams in the world.

People will be more inclined to buy it in the pub if they're worried it's going out run out.

But then again that's me ex publican hat on.
They’re making more than ever; the issue, however, is more of it is being drunk than even than their optimistic predictions dreamed of.

My mate has a pub and his group have tried to get it ordered through the places that don’t usually stock it, and they’ve been knocked back.
 
They’re making more than ever; the issue, however, is more of it is being drunk than even than their optimistic predictions dreamed of.

My mate has a pub and his group have tried to get it ordered through the places that don’t usually stock it, and they’ve been knocked back.

A lot of it depends on the pub and it’s clientele too.

Neither of my locals sell enough to ever run out, as the stock beers are lagers, real ale and the likes of John Smiths.
 
Bloody hell demand must be absolutely through the roof.
Like you, I thought it was either a production issue or their typical marketing style, however that was quickly dismissed by the person I spoke to in the industry.

Sales have steadily increased, with women and 20-30 being demographics that have driven sales. Guinness has naturally favoured the Irish market...

... and as Preston Brook is a now bottling plant rather than brewing, they're reliant on the tankers coming on the Seaforth ferries with the concentrate for the UK.

They're looking at expanding production in Eire with a new brewery, yet that isn't ready yet even though it was greenlighted back in 2023.
 

Like you, I thought it was either a production issue or their typical marketing style, however that was quickly dismissed by the person I spoke to in the industry.

Sales have steadily increased, with women and 20-30 being demographics that have driven sales. Guinness has naturally favoured the Irish market...

... and as Preston Brook is a now bottling plant rather than brewing, they're reliant on the tankers coming on the Seaforth ferries with the concentrate for the UK.

They're looking at expanding production in Eire with a new brewery, yet that isn't ready yet even though it was greenlighted back in 2023.
Guinness have also done well off the back of the social media "beer influencers" IE The Guinness Guru and The Prime mutton fella.
 
Like you, I thought it was either a production issue or their typical marketing style, however that was quickly dismissed by the person I spoke to in the industry.

Sales have steadily increased, with women and 20-30 being demographics that have driven sales. Guinness has naturally favoured the Irish market...

... and as Preston Brook is a now bottling plant rather than brewing, they're reliant on the tankers coming on the Seaforth ferries with the concentrate for the UK.

They're looking at expanding production in Eire with a new brewery, yet that isn't ready yet even though it was greenlighted back in 2023.
My mates /family / colleagues that get out for a meet up over a few beers for footie , racing , boxing etc number the usual 6 sometimes upto 12.

5 to 10 years ago probably only myself and one or 2 others would have Guinness.
Nowadays it's pretty much most of them .
Times have definitely changed.
 
My mates /family / colleagues that get out for a meet up over a few beers for footie , racing , boxing etc number the usual 6 sometimes upto 12.

5 to 10 years ago probably only myself and one or 2 others would have Guinness.
Nowadays it's pretty much most of them .
Times have definitely changed.
Likewise, when I play football in the week, the vast majority of us have a Guinness afterwards. While I'd always prefer a real ale, it's a solid alternative.

And, importantly, the quality is usually as a minumum 'good' where ever you are.
 
Likewise, when I play football in the week, the vast majority of us have a Guinness afterwards. While I'd always prefer a real ale, it's a solid alternative.

And, importantly, the quality is usually as a minumum 'good' where ever you are.
Yep the standard in every pub is from palatable to excellent nowadays.
It wasn't always the case.

Love the German beers ( for obvious reasons) but have drank Guinness most of my life . I'm even partial to Draught Guinness in the cans if I'm having a drink at home. It's pretty much on par nowadays.

Not fussed on the Nitro stuff , it's just a gimmick.
 

Yep the standard in every pub is from palatable to excellent nowadays.
It wasn't always the case.

Love the German beers ( for obvious reasons) but have drank Guinness most of my life . I'm even partial to Draught Guinness in the cans if I'm having a drink at home. It's pretty much on par nowadays.

Not fussed on the Nitro stuff , it's just a gimmick.

Yet for decades Flanagans Apple has managed to pump out the worst Guinness known to man.
 

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