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Match Thread Bournemouth vs Everton

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Sarnia Kevin said:
Can something be "massively compact"? :Blink::D
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Compacting shouldn't affect mass at all. (Sorry)
I don't understand the amount of pessimism about the match today. Even in the abomination that was last season, we finished four places above them. I know it's away and we're not good in the road. I know we haven't always had great results against them, and I know it's Everton, but there are plenty of harder games than this. Spirits up, lads!
 
TheBigIguana said:
I'm willing to be swayed I promise but it's going to take more than I really think he's good which is what I mostly get in response

On that note I'd happily have him prove me wrong but I can see his chances dwindling once Zouma and Mina are healthy
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Ok mate.

I'd be interested to start with to find out why you think his passing is so poor. Is it passing stats? If so, these can be so so misleading and don't tell the full story. So many CBs passing accuracy stats are boosted by short passing between themselves, the FBs and the DMs. With no high pressing from the opposition, you can keep ball easily for 5 mins doing this, never get past the half way line, and maybe get 7 or 8 touches during that time.

Mason doesn't do that. If he has time on the ball he get's his head up and is always looking for a telling ball pinged into the forwards or the advanced midfielders. Some of these don't come off because they are difficult passes to execute, especially when playing under Koeman and Allardyce when options and player movement is minimal. But under Silva, you get the impression that there are going to be a lot more options for him, so you would hope that his accuracy stats would improve. In Saturday's game for instance, there were at least 2 of his pinged balls that led to goal scoring opportunities. None of our other CBs (before this window) had that ability.

Also, Mason doesn't mess about with the ball if he doesn't have time. He'll happily hoof it up when needs be and that will also go against his stats.

If, however, you're not working off stats but purely from your own impression of the lad from watching him, then I would seriously question either your eyesight or your judgment mate. What I see is a very composed footballer, somebody who is happy to have the ball at his feet, likes to play the game on the front foot, get's his head up and looks to play forward, not sideways.

Don't get me wrong, he has his faults. His headed clearances are poor. His positioning at times is out and he also is guilty at times of switching off/ball watching. But I would not include passing ability in his list of faults.
 

A win is everything but in some ways I just want to see us show intent and positivity which I think we will do, and build on the Wolves game.
This is just the beginning of a long process. But it would be such a huge boon if we could get three points today, playing well or not.
 
Barnfred 55 said:
Ok mate.

I'd be interested to start with to find out why you think his passing is so poor. Is it passing stats? If so, these can be so so misleading and don't tell the full story. So many CBs passing accuracy stats are boosted by short passing between themselves, the FBs and the DMs. With no high pressing from the opposition, you can keep ball easily for 5 mins doing this, never get past the half way line, and maybe get 7 or 8 touches during that time.

Mason doesn't do that. If he has time on the ball he get's his head up and is always looking for a telling ball pinged into the forwards or the advanced midfielders. Some of these don't come off because they are difficult passes to execute, especially when playing under Koeman and Allardyce when options and player movement is minimal. But under Silva, you get the impression that there are going to be a lot more options for him, so you would hope that his accuracy stats would improve. In Saturday's game for instance, there were at least 2 of his pinged balls that led to goal scoring opportunities. None of our other CBs (before this window) had that ability.

Also, Mason doesn't mess about with the ball if he doesn't have time. He'll happily hoof it up when needs be and that will also go against his stats.

If, however, you're not working off stats but purely from your own impression of the lad from watching him, then I would seriously question either your eyesight or your judgment mate. What I see is a very composed footballer, somebody who is happy to have the ball at his feet, likes to play the game on the front foot, get's his head up and looks to play forward, not sideways.

Don't get me wrong, he has his faults. His headed clearances are poor. His positioning at times is out and he also is guilty at times of switching off/ball watching. But I would not include passing ability in his list of faults.
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I actually agree that he does tend to be more aggressive in his passing I just don't think it's to a degree that excuses his inaccuracy. He does look comfortable with the ball but that doesn't mean he actually moves it well in my opinion. You can control and dribble decent and still struggle when it comes time to pass. I personally see don't mess about and get rid as a flaw more often than not but I suppose in the right situation it is ok. As I said previously I hope he improves but my guess is his opportunities will be limited once we get to full strength.
 
Enzouk said:
3 - 2 the cherries...

As always in recent years....

Well I don't know to be honest... we play decent attacking football now and so do they, so there will for sure be goals so maybe we can outscore them ey?
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But they have been playing that style far longer than we have. As long as we play as a team, win as a team, loose as a team...thats going to be better to watch than what we have had to endure for three seasons. I wont be overjoyed if we lose but as long as we continue to fight...it'll be something
 

Similar to the Wolves game in that I'll take a point now. We still aren't at full strength and I'd fancy us if we were but we can still get all 3 with a good performance I think
 

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