Match Thread Brentford v Everton. Sun 28th November. 2pm

[Dublin blue 75]

This can’t go on, season after season this is happening. The culture needs to change because we keep seeing performances and runs like this and managers under the cosh , I’m not defending Benitez , it’s a collective problem .

Kenright and the old pals appointments

 

[Sharpies volley]

Lampard - not the best defensively but we'll score goals and without goals we're relegated.

Do me a favour

 

[Gaffa]

Just on the coach. Nasty at the end there with the fans and players again. Rafael refused to come over or near the end. What’s the point in having subs? Them lads may as well go and get new careers or clubs tomorrow if they aren’t wanted.
Wednesday is gonna be horrible. He has to go now

 

[Steve Wigan]

Is this a joke?

Id sack him immediately.

Coleman is a fraud of a player.

Thats the sort of nonsense that a run of defeats leads to. Coleman has been a great servant at Everton, and has captained his country on many occasions. You don't do that if you're a fraud of a player, but saying that Coleman is a fraud could only come in a fraud of a posting. Coleman is physically way past his peak, but has more idea on how to get the ball forward from wide than the rest of them...Gray excepted, and Townsend usually. Our current problem is down to injuries to key players all over the Park, and physical shortcomings from those who are past it. . When Doucoure started to get the measure of his passes, we improved 400 percent, and GRay when he appeared almost got MOM with some inviting crosses. Even Rondon, one of those who is 'past it' had a more involved game, with a powerful shot blocked, and a good header late on.He also made some good clearing headers...needed because without Mina we are terrible at defending set pieces. Before the game Allan was to of the tacking stats for the league, and Keane washigh in the interception stats but defeding corners free kicks and long throws, we need a lot of work. We can still rescue the season, but we need injured players back to full fitness, and a couple of astute January signings. I will be happy with a lot of effort and courage next Wednesday because the RS are motoring at present. After Christmas we will be a lot better.MOTM Pickford...kept us in it in the first half so that we could take the game to them in the second half. Ulimately a failed revival, but welcome to a degree at least.

 

[diggerdestroyer]

2 mins into the chelsea united match and it's too different worlds of intensity (forgetting ability) .intensity is a mindset, workrate and tactical. *seamus coleman 40 seconds a throw in.

 

[Colonel Getafe]

I have a feeling the derby could turn a little toxic, it’ll be the only reason to watch

That and the completely objective analysis provided by Jamie Redknapp, Jamie Carragher and Graeme Souness. - oh and whatever token ex-blue they can get on the panel. For balance.

 

[mrb85]

Worst part of that defeat is I'm not even arsed anymore.

I suspect that's only because you believe we'll pull out of it.

 

[indieman1]

Simms or Dobbin on for Rondon and we would have looked much more like scoring;

I keep reading this. How do myths like this take hold? Simms and Dobbin are sub championship standard. Honestly, if we are pinning our hopes on them, or indeed anyone else the academy has produced since Barkley then we might as well just give up entirely. The fact they are the best the bench has to offer is an utter indictment of the club and the job Brands in particular has done.

 

[d34noj]

We win that with Richarlison on the pitch.

He's not on the pitch though is he Dave.

Jesus christ.

 

[brian labone]

Because its not equally both.

Does anyone really think another manager would get materially more out of this side? We had absolutely no goal threat today aside from a one legged Demarai Gray

And that’s because of our players

Another manager would not keep making the same mistakes week after week (Rondon and Iwobi) or making next to no substitutes or even trying the young lads once in a while.

 

[tellmema]

Who got pulled/ turned away by another player?

See them huddled together hardly daring to look over. Says it all really...

 

[ToffeeDan]

Once Upon a Time we were in the Top 4
Now We're Slipping Right Down the Prem
Oh Effin' Hell We've Evertoned It Up Again

 

[Papa Shango]

Lampard - not the best defensively but we'll score goals and without goals we're relegated.

Only if he is coming as a player manager...

 

[Colonel Getafe]

Imagine watching these last few games and blaming the manager instead of the managers who bought these players or the players themselves.

Our squad, top to bottom, is Bottom 5 in quality. And when you’re missing your two best attacking players and best defender, it just snowballs from there

If only there was somebody whose job it was is to coach and train these players and instil some sort of tactical plan from one week to the next.........

 

[brian labone]

I keep reading this. How do myths like this take hold? Simms and Dobbin are sub championship standard. Honestly, if we are pinning our hopes on them, or indeed anyone else the academy has produced since Barkley then we might as well just give up entirely. The fact they are the best the bench has to offer is an utter indictment of the club and the job Brands in particular has done.

Simms is not a myth he scored 10 goals for Blackpool last season, yes I know its a lower league but how many has Rondon scored.