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Carlo Ancelotti

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Cool_Blue said:
That will be the thing to look forward to, whether he can convince top players to come here. There are only so many of these players to go around and City have most of them.
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I don't think there will be any issues around him personally able to attract top players, the problem will be the wages of these top players, you could also throw in these players wanting champs league footy, etc.
 
Arteta10 said:
How is his West Ham rebuild going?

Pursuing a manager who is on the verge of being sacked by a worse team than us would be madness
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Mourinho and Van Gaal’s rebuilds at Man United didn’t quite go to plan either, many were saying Mourinho was “past it” but he’ll still do an excellent job at Spurs because he’s a top manager, as was Van Gaal.

Pellegrini’s time at West Ham isn’t evidence of him being a bad manager any more than those two cases. It’s perhaps a case of “a bad fit”. Some managers don’t fit clubs, just like Emery and Arsenal, Koeman and us, Rodgers and Liverpool, Del Bosque and Besiktas, Capello at Madrid, Benitez and Chelsea, all still excellent managers - it just wasn’t the right pair-up at the right time.
 
Arteta10 said:
He was there before Neymar wasnt he?

Our squad possibly is the most expensive hes managed but thats more down to the transfer market going mental in the last few years than anything else
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Wasn't sure, Im guessing it must have been relatively quick after.


ps I love how some people manage to come across an arse over an internet message, some talent. (not you @Arteta10)
 
Keiran said:
Mourinho and Van Gaal’s rebuilds at Man United didn’t quite go to plan either, many were saying Mourinho was “past it” but he’ll still do an excellent job at Spurs because he’s a top manager, as was Van Gaal.

Pellegrini’s time at West Ham isn’t evidence of him being a bad manager any more than those two cases. It’s perhaps a case of “a bad fit”. Some managers don’t fit clubs, just like Emery and Arsenal, Koeman and us, Rodgers and Liverpool, Del Bosque and Besiktas, Capello at Madrid, Benitez and Chelsea, all still excellent managers - it just wasn’t the right pair-up at the right time.
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Rodgers almost won the league.

Benitez was exactly the right fit at hte right time. He was only there as an interim coach and won the Europa League.
 

Keiran said:
Because Manuel Pellegrini has taken Malaga and Villareal from nothing into the upper echelons of the league and into Europe. He’s done a similar job to the one we require more than once before and he’s also won league titles and managed top clubs too.

Now, don’t get this twisted and say that I’ve said Pellegrini is a better manager than Ancelotti. Horses for courses.
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So if you were given the choice between the pair...

Would it be Pellegrini, who you say has done it before with teams that have similar structures to Everton (your opinion)...

Or

Ancelotti ?

No beating around the bush. Which one ?
 
Keiran said:
Mourinho and Van Gaal’s rebuilds at Man United didn’t quite go to plan either, many were saying Mourinho was “past it” but he’ll still do an excellent job at Spurs because he’s a top manager, as was Van Gaal.

Pellegrini’s time at West Ham isn’t evidence of him being a bad manager any more than those two cases. It’s perhaps a case of “a bad fit”. Some managers don’t fit clubs, just like Emery and Arsenal, Koeman and us, Rodgers and Liverpool, Del Bosque and Besiktas, Capello at Madrid, Benitez and Chelsea, all still excellent managers - it just wasn’t the right pair-up at the right time.
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We’re getting a manager who’s CV laughs at the above.
 

Keiran said:
Firstly, let’s not be silly. If / when it happens, i’ll be delighted.

Secondly, he’s absolutely the best manager we could get. My reservation, as many others have said, is whether or not he’s the best qualified for this.

Horses for courses. Different managers suit different tasks and Ancelotti has been exceptionally successful working with the best players, transitioning well established clubs into successful teams over a short period of time circa 18-24 months.

He does not have ANY experience of taking over a club in the bottom half, with no recent history of success, with no recent history of consistent European Football and, over a 4-5 year period, moving that club up the league and competing for major honours.

That’s not to say he cannot do that here.

In fact, I agree with you that, in that respect it’s a great opportunity for him as it’s something he has never done before. But if we acknowledge that he’s never done that before then that, in itself, is a reservation.

Amidst the totally understandable avalanche of excitement and positivity over this appoitment, I don’t think it’s negative or trolling to talk about that.
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Is that you moyesy?
 
Wayno said:
Koeman didn’t lose the dressing room, the club lost Koeman.

We were doing fine , and then the hysterical booing and hissing started at the slightest hint of a drop in form and he looked like he was going to laugh his head off on the touchline.

That’s the worry with Ancelotti, he’s won the lot. If and when the hysteria starts when have a dip in form , how will he react? The worry is , him and his team will switch off the club totally. Exactly like Koeman did
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Comparing the very frosty and average manager Koeman to the world renowned fantastic man manager, If Ancelotti loses the dressing room we are done for.
 
Anyway, is this done now or what?

Probably waiting until tomorrow to announce. No need distract the players from tonight’s match.
 

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