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2017/18 Cenk Tosun

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artena_condari said:
Well, I am pretty sure Besiktas could win against Arsenal. Anyway, I hope after we beat Bayern, we’ll face a British team in Champions League quarter-final; then you can form opinions more smarter.

By the way, Niasse himself was playing in Turkish league at a team that struggled with relegation so...

So you should keep your arrogant mouth shut. What I said about Cenk was relying his individual attributes which were tested at 2 years of CL experience.
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Turkish teams get massive home advantages in Europe so any success there is qualified.

Are you saying that we should be recognising Niasse as an acceptable player now?

And you’ll get smashed out of sight by Bayern surely you realise that.
 
Kev The Rat said:
Turkish teams get massive home advantages in Europe so any success there is qualified.

Are you saying that we should be recognising Niasse as an acceptable player now?

And you’ll get smashed out of sight by Bayern surely you realise that.
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As I said earlier, Niasse is a poor player and I find the fact he is playing at EPL quite surprising. What I am saying is Turkish League provides many talents to west European Leagues such as Aboubakar and Bruma. Just a week ago, Stoke City bought a player for 16m. So no need to be arrogant. Turkish League is better than Ligue 1 or Dutch league etc.

Cenk has proved his talent both in CL and national team. If Niasse is chosen over him, this is due to Sam’s lack of offensive strategy.
 
artena_condari said:
As I said earlier, Niasse is a poor player and I find the fact he is playing at EPL quite surprising. What I am saying is Turkish League provides many talents to west European Leagues such as Aboubakar and Bruma. Just a week ago, Stoke City bought a player for 16m. So no need to be arrogant. Turkish League is better than Ligue 1 or Dutch league etc.

Cenk has proved his talent both in CL and national team. If Niasse is chosen over him, this is due to Sam’s lack of offensive strategy.
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No disrespect Mate, but if Niasse is poor I dread to think just how much of an utter cart Tosun is if he can't get in the team ahead of him.
 
Daveysgingerlovechild said:
No disrespect Mate, but if Niasse is poor I dread to think just how much of an utter cart Tosun is if he can't get in the team ahead of him.
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I don’t think the reason he can’t get in the team because he is poorer than Niasse. He is simply not a counter-attack player. As long as Everton plays with Sam’s mentality, he will never be that successful. What I don’t understand is why Everton bought him at the first place if Sam would make the team play like this. Cenk would be successful in a team which is offence-oriented like tottenham etc.
 

artena_condari said:
I don’t think the reason he can’t get in the team because he is poorer than Niasse. He is simply not a counter-attack player. As long as Everton plays with Sam’s mentality, he will never be that successful. What I don’t understand is why Everton bought him at the first place if Sam would make the team play like this. Cenk would be successful in a team which is offence-oriented like tottenham etc.
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He wouldnt even make Tottenhams bench.
 
artena_condari said:
I don’t think the reason he can’t get in the team because he is poorer than Niasse. He is simply not a counter-attack player. As long as Everton plays with Sam’s mentality, he will never be that successful. What I don’t understand is why Everton bought him at the first place if Sam would make the team play like this. Cenk would be successful in a team which is offence-oriented like tottenham etc.
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Sam's just basically said he's like a big girl and too weak to hack it in the premier league. Doesn't hold the ball up like he did for besiktas where the players must all obviously be very very weak. The proper men in the premier league are too strong for him apparently. Even Michael Keane has him in training. Which is bad. Very bad.

I may be paraphrasing. Thoughts?
 

Daveysgingerlovechild said:
Sam's just basically said he's like a big girl and too weak to hack it in the premier league. Doesn't hold the ball up like he did for besiktas where the players must all obviously be very very weak. The proper men in the premier league are too strong for him apparently. Even Michael Keane has him in training. Which is bad. Very bad.

I may be paraphrasing. Thoughts?
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Niasse is obviously stronger than him but I don’t think he is weak. Just watch his CL goals and assists that he made this year - he doesn’t fall easily.
 
bring the ghost on said:
Oh dear, are we chucking Mangala in with Cuco and Schneiderlin already?

Bad times.
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I think you might find that Cuco and Schneidlin have seen Mangala before and they would take great umbrage at being associated with him. I didn't watch all of today's game, by half time I had taken as much self loathing as I could stand but I seen enough of Mangala to know he is not going to shore up our left defence. I am not catholic but I am lighting candles for Baines.
 

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