2019/20 Cenk Tosun

[mightymoyes]

Which has got nothing to do with the poppy and never has had.

So you say but it means something different to people in countries England has invaded and robbed

 

[mightymoyes]

The poppy represents the fallen who fought for our freedom to be able to do everything we can do now. Bit different than turks invading syria

Only to British people, same as tosun and teammates gesture means to the turks

 

[4737carlin]

So you say but it means something different to people in countries England has invaded and robbed

Yeah because they have it wrong, they interpret it to mean what they want it to mean,rather then what it actually means.
As for Everton wearing one, it would be disgusting from the club if they didnt, considering we have Ex Everton players who were killed in the war and have a memorial to them outside the ground

 

[DickRitchie214]

People need to seriously consider whether it is appropriate to offer unswerving support to their armed forces. I don't see why it is always seen as a virtuous action to offer support. If the military action being taken is aggressive, unjust, illegal or just morally wrong, support should not be offered without criticism.

This veneration without question of armed forces around the world is always played upon by unsavoury politicians (look at what Trump does atm with his constant mention of 'vets' and 'our patriot armed forces') as a means to get effective public support for their military interventions. Yes, they are men and women who are sent into dangerous situations by their politicians, but that does not automatically make them heroes and it does not automatically make them worthy of our support. It is possible to wish that no harm befalls them without giving tacit support to their actions. People need to realise that.

This Tosun situation is just awful. Personally I wouldn't care if it was Messi doing it at our club - I want him gone.

The problem with this is that you are supporting the troops, not what they're doing. It's their job, and like any job, they're doing what they're told to do. It's not like the troops themselves are deciding who to invade etc.

Edit: saw the on topic warnings after posting; sorry

 

[Tubey]

Bloody idiot.

 

[Grinch]

i dont think condone is the word you are looking for

condemn**

 

[Thomasc]

(Inserts faux outrage about something I don’t really care about)

he’s not getting picked for a reason, though I’m still convinced he’d give us a better goal return than DCL over a season.

 

[PhilRegan]

Its cenk mate

Exactly but these medium to large investment failures have to be resolved. We can't just continue to write them off it's not sustainable.

 

[Armaghtoffee]

Blimey, you lot like to live dangerously, don't you?

Cenk Tosun is not quick enough or mobile enough for the Premier League. He'd be decent in Germany, like. See that? On topic Ladies and Gentlemen!

3rd choice striker at best now in a team that only plays one up front.

 

[Walken]

Exactly but these medium to large investment failures have to be resolved. We can't just continue to write them off it's not sustainable.

I'm afraid I was making a terrible chess pun, I apologise

 

[Jt5688]

He's an idiot b


No the political gesture is idiot Premier league clubs like Everton putting the poppy on their shirts.

They're both overtly political gestures. Rejecting a political gesture is in itself a political gesture.

To take another example, in the NFL they play the American national anthem before the game. Colin Kaepernick and certain other players taking a knee to protest police brutality, inter alia, was a political gesture. As was / is playing the anthem in the first place. As is posing for a salute to your country's soldiers during a war.

 

[Parker]

Any reason to not see him and his soluble hair pretend to try dead hard for the occasional 15 minutes he gets is good enough for me.

Bin him off.

 

[Neiler]

Only care if he is any good at football or not, falling in to the not category to be honest.

 

[PhilRegan]

I'm afraid I was making a terrible chess pun, I apologise

Haha oh I see how slow I was there lol very good.

 

[Noble Savage]

There's a player who plays his trade in the 2nd tier of Germany who just got sacked for making a post regarding his support of Turkish troops .
I think Cenk will be getting a slap on the wrist by Everton's PR team .