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more info please.

what games are the forum members currently playing?

Rainbow six Vegas 2 is coming out soon ish, if you can curb your cravings for a shooter for about a month I'd get that. awesome game, also if you haven't played the original I suggest you do. It was voted number 1 online multiplayer game on a 360 in last years game awards.....and shooters are always better on the PC
 

what electronics are you relearning? and what are you using to stress test your system?

Just an advanced electrical course that I took in 2003. I have to retake this new revision so I can teach it.

And I am using Prime95 and Orthos for CPU stress testing. If you get some CPU temp monitors like Speedfan or Coretemp you start those up and then load up Prime95 or Orthos, which load the CPU to 100% duty and you can monitor temps to make sure your OC isn't getting too hot and the system runs the tests in a stable fashion.
 
sounds like a lot of pressure on your air cooled heatsinks.

how often do you clean your case?

this is extremely pertinent as a fan died on my 'big typhoon' and cost me a processor, im on backup pc currently and im not overly impressed.

[Poor language removed] dust. [Poor language removed].
 
Well, the fan is PWM controlled, so basically the cpu throttles it to keep it cool. When at idle it spins at ~700rpm, but at 100% load it spins it all the way to 2500 rpm. The point of the stress testing is putting the cpu under a controlled load that will exceed even hard gaming or rendering sessions so I can have faith in the OC being stable and not crapping out mid-video or mid-game with no save.

My case gets a blow-down about every 2 weeks with canned air. If you were running core temp in the back-ground, even if you didn't notice the fan die, you would see temps going up. Also, not sure which brand chip you have, but with the Intel chips they have 'thermal-throttling' so if the chips is running too hot it starts intentionally skipping instructions cycles to reduce the actual load on the chip and minimize heat production. This is enabled/disabled in the bios.
 
Now here's an E8400 qwerk. They have changed the temperature reporting on this chip, no longer does it report core temps, but it reports 'Thermal Margin' That is, it is actually the total temperature left before the processor reaches its maximum recommended temperature or thermal design.

From an Intel tech:

The shorter the margin is the closer the processor gets to its thermal limit. If by any chance the thermal margin reaches 0 degrees Celsius the system should still not freeze but it will alarm you of overheating problems with in the processor area.

For instance, if a processor thermal spec is 60 degrees Celsius and the thermal margin reports only 20 degrees Celsius, it means that the actual processor is only running at 40 degrees Celsius.

As long as the processor is operating under this temperature it is operating within specifications. We do not have a normal operating temperature for the processor as this temperature will vary depending on the chassis and other hardware installed on the system as well as the actual load the software is placing on the processor.

Keep in mind that only the CPU uses thermal margin, the temperature reported by each core is the temperature level the core is running at. However keep in mind that you do not need to be concerned about the temperature of each core, you only need to pay attention to the thermal margin of the CPU itself.

Please do not hesitate to contact us again if you need further assistance.
 

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