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Conspiracy theories

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dholliday said:
aye, all that conspiracy stuff that turned out to be true is mostly from the 50's and 60's. we'll have to wait a while for the next batch to come out in the wash.
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I'm a firm believer that 95% of conspiracy theories are a load of rubbish, but there's always a few that turn out to be true or at least very close.
 
LostLegend said:
Not sure if I'd call this a conspiracy. Some certainly would, others not so.

There's an increasing amount of compelling evidence that there may have been an advanced human civilisation thousands of years before the accepted time line.

There are monolithic sites which have been found that predate the believed building of the pyramids by many thousands of years at a time when man was supposed to be no more than primitive hunter/gatherers.

Further to this, there is a lot of compelling evidence of a large scale global cataclysm around the time that may have 'pressed the reset button' on man kinds progress. The most popular theory is an arctic meteor strike causing global flooding (a possible source for the great flood myths found in many religions and cultures today)

Of course, the loons (Ancient Aliens, Atlantis believers etc,) are all over this, but there is some genuinely compelling evidence coming through.

There is a lot of resistance from a lot of historians though and subsequent mudslinging. Some historians/researchers saying this is 'psuedo-science' and the other side accusing the academics being ignorant in order to protect their careers.
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Interesting.
 

Elong said:
The Knight's Templar story has always fascinated me. Why were they all suddenly executed? Getting too big and greedy for their own good and fell out with the Pope, or something else going on? The Grail stuff has always been interesting.
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They became too rich and powerful. They held most of the south of France and rich landowners to the North were defecting to them from the French king because they charged less tax. France was shrinking and the French King had borrowed quite a lot of money off them.
He just decided to get the land back and cancel the massive debt by killing the Pope, installing his own man and getting him to declare the Templars a heresy and wipe them out.
It all depends which grail you are on about. Some are more tedious than the others.
 
GueyeBhoy said:
They became too rich and powerful. They held most of the south of France and rich landowners to the North were defecting to them from the French king because they charged less tax. France was shrinking and the French King had borrowed quite a lot of money off them.
He just decided to get the land back and cancel the massive debt by killing the Pope, installing his own man and getting him to declare the Templars a heresy and wipe them out.
It all depends which grail you are on about. Some are more tedious than the others.
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Well yes that's all quite well known, but there's always other stories hanging around it. It could have been a simple power grab and a way to erase debt, but something triggered it maybe. They were evidently in possession of something worth more than gold. Solomon's Temple and all that jazz.
 
Elong said:
Well yes that's all quite well known, but there's always other stories hanging around it. It could have been a simple power grab and a way to erase debt, but something triggered it maybe. They were evidently in possession of something worth more than gold. Solomon's Temple and all that jazz.
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Well you wanted to know why it happened..
They weren't 'evidently' in possession of anything other then all their land and gold. That would require evidence. ;-) Anything from Solomon's temple was long gone by the time the Templars turned up, no matter how much they dug under the Temple Mount.

The grail in that part of the world is a hematite goblet currently in the ownership of Francois Mitterrand's wife. Nothing special.
 
GueyeBhoy said:
Well you wanted to know why it happened..
They weren't 'evidently' in possession of anything other then all their land and gold. That would require evidence. ;-) Anything from Solomon's temple was long gone by the time the Templars turned up, no matter how much they dug under the Temple Mount.

The grail in that part of the world is a hematite goblet currently in the ownership of Francois Mitterrand's wife. Nothing special.
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No, I know "why" it happened. It's a conspiracy thread, and there's possibly more to it I reckon. I know a wee bit about this stuff too :)
 

Elong said:
No, I know "why" it happened. It's a conspiracy thread, and there's possibly more to it I reckon. I know a wee bit about this stuff too :)
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Just because it's a random made up story about what you think might have happened doesn't make in a conspiracy. It just makes it a random made up story.
The 'Templars treasure' was massively overstated and there was never any evidence for it. You any idea how much they spent on building forts, castles etc? The rest got loaned out and never got repaid when they were offed.
 
GueyeBhoy said:
Just because it's a random made up story about what you think might have happened doesn't make in a conspiracy. It just makes it a random made up story.
The 'Templars treasure' was massively overstated and there was never any evidence for it. You any idea how much they spent on building forts, castles etc? The rest got loaned out and never got repaid when they were offed.
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You're not very good at this.
 

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