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Conspiracy theories

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That is sort of the perfect thread by a conspiracy theorist.
1. Greatly exaggerate the claim
2. Demonise "mainstream media"
3. Present a "scientific quote" out of context
4. Everyone who doesn't agree with you is naive
5. General broadsweeping statements which are not actually true

The only thing you missed was "open your eyes sheeple"

9 out of 10

You left out the self-righteous and condescening "there are better places to properly discuss this than with people who become 'agitated'" [Translation: I'm really the only person who is clear-minded on this thread, the rest of you should agree with me or I'm leaving]
 
You left out the self-righteous and condescening "there are better places to properly discuss this than with people who become 'agitated'" [Translation: I'm really the only person who is clear-minded on this thread, the rest of you should agree with me or I'm leaving]
Reminds me of when @Barry Rathbone left in a strop as his ideas on climate change were challenged by people who had direct knowledge of what they were talking about.
FWIW I am pretty critically minded. I don’t pay a huge amount of attention to news stories as I always think there is an evident bias. However, the portrayal of Bill Gates as some sort of bogeyman given all the current nonsense that is sweeping America just seems downright dumb.
 
LOL, that Vox article is highly tepid.

OMG!!! Sound the alarms, a private foundation that has lots of money gives its money to causes of its own choice!!

This just can't be true, can it? It sounds suspiciously like a private foundation with lots of money that doesn't have any government oversight because it is private can actually donate its money as it sees fit...so crazy! How is this not more known! [insert eerie dramatic music!].

Like seriously though, it's really crazy that a private foundation started by a technologically-minded multi-billionaire would have billions of dollars at its disposal to fund health projects that it privately decides to fund [insert Twilight Zone music].

I mean open your eyes people: This private foundation that has its own board members and uses technology in its privately-funded health initiatives doesn't have to answer to people who are not part of the foundation! This is too much...TOOOO MUCH!
 
I was told, years ago, that when the Mersey tunnels were dug, 2 massive Thunderbird like drills were used, and when they reached the other side, it was cheaper to let them bore into the river side, than recover them.

So there are 2 massive metal moles in the banks of either the Wirral or Liverpool.
 
What influence?

You then go on to admit that they are reliant on the foundation’s money, with them being the second biggest donor behind the good old U.S of A. His money couldn’t buy him any influence at all could it? I mean, what influence? lol

I can’t be arsed with this thread anymore.

Yeah, critique and discussion about different conspiracies should be welcomed, but it’s been hijacked by a load of smart arses that want to do nothing but pretend that there’s never been a conspiracy. Not one. The mainstream narrative must be believed because the BBC don’t tell lies.

If it’s a thread where people think being the WHO’s second biggest funder to the tune of over 50 billion pound doesn’t come with any influence, then I think I’ll leave it here. You can’t discuss conspiracy theories properly if people are going to be so naive that handing over 50 billion dollars wouldn’t afford the donor any influence whatsoever.

It’s like arguing Usmanov or Phil Green would have no influence over Everton even if they’re the ones bankrolling them or keeping them in business. They’re doing what most chairman should be doing, but that doesn’t mean they have any influence o_O

For what it’s worth, here’s an article quoting a load of scientists that have expressed concerns about the Gates’ funding of the WHO, their love of intellectual property rights, and their focus on technology:


I’m leaving it there, though. There are other places on the internet where conspiracy theories can be discussed properly, without conversing with people that become agitated when anything but the media narrative is accepted.
What are you on about?

I never once said they were reliant on foundation money. I think you cannot read. They have more money than they know what to do with. Also its common sense to have other give your charity money so it's not just yours you're spending.

The only problem here is your inability to accept reality and facts.

I never once mentioned the media or anything they said about him. But even if I did do you now think the media are in on it with him? The same media that lambasted him and attacked him in the 90's.

When you ignore facts and the blatantly obvious to make up a conspiracy it's not bloody well a conspiracy is it.

The rest of your post is just nonsense.
 

I was told, years ago, that when the Mersey tunnels were dug, 2 massive Thunderbird like drills were used, and when they reached the other side, it was cheaper to let them bore into the river side, than recover them.

So there are 2 massive metal moles in the banks of either the Wirral or Liverpool.
That’s a good one. I always wonder if builders always reveal when they find unknown structures or remains when building a new property etc as they know it will cause a massive hold up with archaeologists coming to inspect and detail everything. I suspect not
 
That’s a good one. I always wonder if builders always reveal when they find unknown structures or remains when building a new property etc as they know it will cause a massive hold up with archaeologists coming to inspect and detail everything. I suspect not
Builders here in Spain are gutted when they turn up an old Roman house. The Government give six months for the University to dig.
 
That’s a good one. I always wonder if builders always reveal when they find unknown structures or remains when building a new property etc as they know it will cause a massive hold up with archaeologists coming to inspect and detail everything. I suspect not

A quick google search tells me the Birkenhead one was hand dug, but the Wallesy one deffo used a mechanical mole. So who knows if it was rammed into the river bank? Makes some sort of sense.
 

That’s fair enough. You admit that he has influence as to how his money is spent and not everyone agrees with how it should be spent, and that some people have concerns about how it is bring spent. So the what influence question has been answered, even though I think it is a ridiculous question to ask.

Conspiracy theories rely on two things. One, there is actual proof of conspiracies having taken place in the past, conspiracies aren’t the same as magic. And two, something which can until now only be a theory, as the truth is unknown.

Thus, the Madeline McCann conspiracy theorists aren’t shouting as loud as they used to because compelling evidence has been unearthed that looks to contradict their hypotheses. Whereas the elite paedo conspiracy theorists, well, they haven’t just been proven correct but I think there is some way to go on that one!

I always thought the McCann’s were innocent, and have argued so here and elsewhere. But that’s not the point. The possibility of their parents being involved in her disappearance was a valid hypothesis until proven otherwise.

I wasn’t entering a conspiracy forum and jumping up and down demanding cast iron proof of the parents’ involvement. I wasn’t jumping on every topic of conversation and becoming agitated unless the mainstream narrative on any given topic was accepted.

For me, this isn’t a proper conspiracy thread if I’m being asked ‘What influence’? lol when the person asking the question already knows that Mr Gates is the WHO’s second biggest donor. Stuck in between the extremely noble USA and Great Britain.

I think there are better places to discuss conspiracy theories; where people aren’t so attached to their mainstream news providers.
“Conspiracy theories rely on two things. One, there is actual proof of conspiracies having taken place in the past, conspiracies aren’t the same as magic. And two, something which can until now only be a theory, as the truth is unknown.”
So your benchmark for conspiracy
a) something unrelated has happened in the past
b) someone makes something up that can’t be proven

Sounds about right
 
That is sort of the perfect thread by a conspiracy theorist.
1. Greatly exaggerate the claim
2. Demonise "mainstream media"
3. Present a "scientific quote" out of context
4. Everyone who doesn't agree with you is naive
5. General broadsweeping statements which are not actually true

The only thing you missed was "open your eyes sheeple"

9 out of 10
A good conspiracy theory is simply based on two things

1. What
2. Why

The how is where the theory has its ground but as long as you have those two then you have a good basis for a conspiracy theory. That's why no covid-19 conspiracies hold ground because none of them have a why to go with them. You can go into detail about all you want but if there isn't a credible why then it's basically a fairytale .

Even things like the moon landing has a credible why to it. Now the more I read about that in particular I have swayed back to the official line because there has been evidence offered to it being real that does make sense now. But go back 10 years ago , the theories around that did sound credible to have been faked.
 

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