Conspiracy theories

[RaleighBlue]

Zika Virus a massive scare / hoax
According to the Washington Post.
Basically the majority of the babies with small heads are in N. Brasil

"Scientists are bewildered by Zika’s path across Latin America"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...614-11e6-9cae-2a3574e296a6_story.html?0p19G=c

Why is this a conspiracy theory rather than just the way science works?

 

[magicjuan]

The Denver Airport:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/d...that-launched-a-thousand-conspiracy-theories/

Fascinating stuff to look into. I went way down the rabbit hole a few years ago with this and the Georgia guide stones.

Best way is to study each mural without looking up what others have seen, then go look at what you missed. Very dark stuff imho.

 

[Blue Cheese]

Not a conspiracy as such but, if the universe is expanding, what is it expanding into if there is nothing there? Similar, if there was nothing, where did the energy for the first big bang come from?

 

[Blue Cheese]

Oh and Gone in 60seconds come on

 

[verreauxi]

The Bavarian Illuminati as well as 5 wealthy cigar-smoking overweight white guys in a hotel in Dallas are conspiring to keep the Cubs from winning the World Series.

 

[N.S.N.O.]

Not a conspiracy as such but, if the universe is expanding, what is it expanding into if there is nothing there? Similar, if there was nothing, where did the energy for the first big bang come from?

Yep have often wondered that...if nothing existed before the big bang, How did it happen?....

 

[Blue Cheese]

Yep have often wondered that...if nothing existed before the big bang, How did it happen?....

I don't understand it, it has battered my head for years lol

 

[JonS]

At the risk of giving the mods even more work, I've resurrected this thread as a more appropriate place to discuss some of the things that were staring to be talked about in the Trump and EU threads.

I'm not a great fan when conspiracy theorists start talking about the Rothschild's etc as I believe it is often thinly disguised anti Semitism (which I abhor).

That said I do believe there is some sort of global hedgemony that perpetuates the neo-liberal economic system well described in this article http://gu.com/p/5bfzp that @The Esk also linked to today.

The Bilderberg Group from what I have read in reliable sources such as The Guardian etc, holds meetings in secret at which new up and coming people (politicians, writers, opinion formers) are invited. People of different political persuasions are apparently invited and - as far as I can deduce from what I have read - attempts are made (not in an obviously sinister fashion but by flattery and persuasion) to draw them into this global hedgemonic thinking.

Apparently Dennis Healy was a founder member of the Bilderberg Group.

Now, I can also see this happening (whether through the Bilderberg Group or not) with US presidents or British or European political leaders. The pressure to conform to the global hedgemony is immense and if a president or British or European leader does conform they will have a relatively safe run as leader whereas if they don't they will potentially find themselves being destabilised.

I believe there are considerable vested interests in this country and globally wanting the continuation of the EU as it has been an excellent guarantee of the continuation of the neo-liberal political-economic system that acts for their benefit.

That said I recognise that there might also be vested interests in the dismantling of the EU - certainly among a few of the newspaper proprietors.

So, it will be interesting to see if Trump conforms to these vested interests in a similar way to what I believe Obama was drawn into doing.

In short - anyone with any radicalism that threatens the global interests of the powerful will be destabilised.

Why do you think the media are so strong against any labour leader (Kinnock, Foot, Corbyn) who appears to threaten this, whereas with a safe Bilderberg type of leader like Healey (even though he wasn't ever labour leader) or Blair weren't?

Hilary Clinton was and would have been a part of this global hedgemony . Trump (whose seeming intolerance to other racial groups I abhor) is not yet obviously part of it but will be under great implicit pressure to become so.

I think we are 20 or so years away from the collapse of the current global economic system but the cracks in it are starting with the frustration of the people and the rise of the left and right

 

[magicjuan]

Yep have often wondered that...if nothing existed before the big bang, How did it happen?....

Awareness. If you didn't know you were alive would you be asleep or fead/dormant.

Look up the actual translation of the book of genesis in particular the original meanig of the 'word' in hebrew and aramaic.

 

[magicjuan]

At the risk of giving the mods even more work, I've resurrected this thread as a more appropriate place to discuss some of the things that were staring to be talked about in the Trump and EU threads.

I'm not a great fan when conspiracy theorists start talking about the Rothschild's etc as I believe it is often thinly disguised anti Semitism (which I abhor).

That said I do believe there is some sort of global hedgemony that perpetuates the neo-liberal economic system well described in this article http://gu.com/p/5bfzp that @The Esk also linked to today.

The Bilderberg Group from what I have read in reliable sources such as The Guardian etc, holds meetings in secret at which new up and coming people (politicians, writers, opinion formers) are invited. People of different political persuasions are apparently invited and - as far as I can deduce from what I have read - attempts are made (not in an obviously sinister fashion but by flattery and persuasion) to draw them into this global hedgemonic thinking.

Apparently Dennis Healy was a founder member of the Bilderberg Group.

Now, I can also see this happening (whether through the Bilderberg Group or not) with US presidents or British or European political leaders. The pressure to conform to the global hedgemony is immense and if a president or British or European leader does conform they will have a relatively safe run as leader whereas if they don't they will potentially find themselves being destabilised.

I believe there are considerable vested interests in this country and globally wanting the continuation of the EU as it has been an excellent guarantee of the continuation of the neo-liberal political-economic system that acts for their benefit.

That said I recognise that there might also be vested interests in the dismantling of the EU - certainly among a few of the newspaper proprietors.

So, it will be interesting to see if Trump conforms to these vested interests in a similar way to what I believe Obama was drawn into doing.

In short - anyone with any radicalism that threatens the global interests of the powerful will be destabilised.

Why do you think the media are so strong against any labour leader (Kinnock, Foot, Corbyn) who appears to threaten this, whereas with a safe Bilderberg type of leader like Healey (even though he wasn't ever labour leader) or Blair weren't?

Hilary Clinton was and would have been a part of this global hedgemony . Trump (whose seeming intolerance to other racial groups I abhor) is not yet obviously part of it but will be under great implicit pressure to become so.

I think we are 20 or so years away from the collapse of the current global economic system but the cracks in it are starting with the frustration of the people and the rise of the left and right

To a point. Kinnock was never a victim. He was a stooge.
Sometimes when you look at hierarchies you only look at the top and then miss the system at work at our level.
You can still use the word co spiracy but the theory bit is superfluous.
Look at something like Common Purpose in the UK first and see how the system actually works.

 

[deipnosophist]

I used to ridicule the 9/11 conspiracy theorists, but now I'm not so sure. I can just about accept the hitherto unprecedented incidence of an inferno causing massive concrete buildings to collapse in near free fall through the weakening of steal beams, especially as the crashing of aeroplanes into sky scrapers was also unprecedented. However there is no way that I can accept that explanation over WTC building number seven, and yet that is exactly what we are being asked to believe.

There is simply no way that fires causing asymmetrical damage can cause a building like WTC 7 to collapse in the way that it did. Far greater infernos have raged through similar buildings but have never caused a near free fall symmetrical collapse that quite obviously mirrors what happens during controlled demolitions using explosives. This view is held by many experts in the fields of architecture, construction, demolition and physics etc.

I would advise people to watch the video below. It contains a lot of footage filmed during the event itself in which person after person who was in the vicinity of the towers talk about hearing multiple explosions and the ground floor lobby being decimated by an explosion prior the collapse of the towers. You see and hear eye-witness testimony from emergency services personnel who reject the 'official' explanation based on their own experiences on the day.

Then, when you think about how 9/11 proved to be the catalyst for a whole series of military interventions in the middle east in the aftermath of the event which continues to this day, then you really start questioning who it was that orchestrated the 9/11 attacks. At the very least, WTC 7 was the subject of a controlled demolition, there is no doubt about it.

it's worth adding that WTC7 was a 47 storey building!!!
fwiw, there is no doubt in my mind that the collapse of all three buildings was 'assisted'.

 

[deipnosophist]

Denver Airport?...it's a den of intrigue that place.
Here is the statue outside the airport

Locals call it Blucifer !

 

[VentureBrosEFC]

it's worth adding that WTC7 was a 47 storey building!!!
fwiw, there is no doubt in my mind that the collapse of all three buildings was 'assisted'.

At the very least every person who looks at the full story would conclude if being truthful to themselves that if the government didn't do it themselves that they let it happen. Going back to Clinton there was specific intelligence that bin Laden was seeking to blow up the towers for good (after 93) specifically mentioning the use of aircraft.

 

[Kurt.]

what about honey g on the x factor.... straaaange

 

[deipnosophist]

I don't understand it, it has battered my head for years lol

I suspect the energy came from the compression to an energy scintilla of a previous universe. This process repeats every X billion years or so.
But what was the provenance of the very first universe?
It's provenance was the very last universe...it's a circularity.
Think of a hoop you hold in your hand...it has no discreet beginning and end, it's comprised of an infinite set of points all equidistant to one point. It's infinity feeding back on itself.

Like the universe