Crypto currency (IF banned from CA)


as i said,
its not teenagers in their moms basement buying bitcoin anymore,
its multi billion dollar institutions!
At the time of its collapse, Lehman was the fourth-largest investment bank in the United States with 25,000 employees worldwide. It had $639 billion in assets and $613 billion in liabilities. The bank became a symbol of the excesses of the 2007-08 Financial Crisis, engulfed by the subprime meltdown that swept through financial markets and cost an estimated $10 trillion in lost economic output.
 
Fair enough for looking into it.

Where does the ETH go is a flawed argument, people paid ethereum for HEX, in a simple swap. When any new project launches, people buy those new coins with eth or bitcoin, no one asks where does the eth go? Does the founder of a multibillion dollar crypto not deserve to get rich? Who cares what happened to the ETH?

Centralized ownership of supply is how every successful business/company has ever operated, it's not a bad thing that a billionaire founder owns a ton of the supply on the premise that he never sells. As he holds the price up himself. Distributed ownership or control is a disaster and always has been.

The reasoning of, well he could sell it all at any minute, could be said about the housing market, or companies where founders have large holdings. It is simply not possible for everyone to sell their house at once, as there would be not enough buyers, just like elon couldnt sell all his tsla stock at once.

There are no hidden T&Cs in HEX, it is a smart contract with no admin keys, the code can never be changed. He is very open that he does not want to create a security and be sued by the SEC so has taken steps to avoid this, these are the actions of a smart man not a dumb scammer.

What you missed from his background that he used to mine full bitcoin blocks himself when it was 50c, he is was already an extremely wealthy man before HEX so really has no incentive to sell and completely ruin himself.

He also volunteered to the SENS foundation for many years, has written self help books that he gives away for free and has many videos on youtube that implore you to stop drinking, trading, gambling and how to have better relationships.

inb4 i am richard heart, but look at the chart, it has changed my life dramatically.
Mate, I’m very happy for you if you’ve made money out of this. As much as some think people that are wary of crypto are just jealous, it’s not true. I really just don’t want people getting burnt.

But I personally think there is some dodgy stuff going on here. And there is a difference between him selling out versus the owner of a major company. Because he is almost certainly sitting on a huge amount of ethereum which won’t be affected if he decides to bounce. And because the way he has set it up he will make money on the way down regardless. As all the penalties go into the origin address. The origin address is really worrying for me but if you are comfortable with it then go ahead. I hope you are right and I am wrong
 
Also, another point. As someone that has experience of losing a friend to a cult for good few years, free self help books are not a good thing. It’s a classic way of preying on the vulnerable.

They are weaponised to make it seem like they care when they really don’t.
 
Mate, I’m very happy for you if you’ve made money out of this. As much as some think people that are wary of crypto are just jealous, it’s not true. I really just don’t want people getting burnt.

But I personally think there is some dodgy stuff going on here. And there is a difference between him selling out versus the owner of a major company. Because he is almost certainly sitting on a huge amount of ethereum which won’t be affected if he decides to bounce. And because the way he has set it up he will make money on the way down regardless. As all the penalties go into the origin address. The origin address is really worrying for me but if you are comfortable with it then go ahead. I hope you are right and I am wrong
No fair enough mate and I actually appreciate that out of everyone here you took some time to research it.

The point with the OA comes upa lot, and was my first hesitation with it. But when you think about it, the ETH is completely separate to HEX, I just see it as seed money for the founder of a business. he took the risk and was handsomely rewarded with a lot of ETH. If he doesn't sell any HEX, and why would he need to he has billions in ETH, he can prop the price of hex up by never ever selling.

Appreciate the advice re the cult, the book is mostly just about not drinking/gambling and how to have better relationships with your partners, there is a section about how to have better orgasms which is pretty good ha!
 

fundemently bitcoin is the scarcest asset in the world,digital gold.

Except that bitcoin is infinitely divisible?

When the supply of an asset is so scarce that it cannot meet demand, the price goes up.

When the demand of an asset decreases and you have excess supply, the price goes down. If you can't imagine how/why demand for crypto will decrease then you will be blind to see it coming.
 
I agree and I am not a fan of BTC it is expensive and slow and will never be used for its original use case of p2p digital cash.

See (and I am not directing this at you @SerenityNigh ) but a lot of people in this thread cant fathom that you can be anti bitcoin but pro crypto

Good point, and it's easy to conflate (which I do frequently.) I think a genuine question many have (certainly true for myself) is what use does crypto have? I think a "digital cash" is a perfect use, but not with price instabilities. And if crypto prices converge to a unifying and useful valuation, what determines this? But if it's not able to provide credit/liquidity then it's only a speculative asset. And if so, enjoy the ride as much as you can.
 
who do think is buying it all now at $30,000
its not sex tourists from thailand,
its banks,institutions governments.
all these big players are manipulating the market to scoop more up.
a big supply shock is coming!

Oh, manipulation theories

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At the time of its collapse, Lehman was the fourth-largest investment bank in the United States with 25,000 employees worldwide. It had $639 billion in assets and $613 billion in liabilities. The bank became a symbol of the excesses of the 2007-08 Financial Crisis, engulfed by the subprime meltdown that swept through financial markets and cost an estimated $10 trillion in lost economic output.

Also the aptly named Long Term Capital Management
 

At the time of its collapse, Lehman was the fourth-largest investment bank in the United States with 25,000 employees worldwide. It had $639 billion in assets and $613 billion in liabilities. The bank became a symbol of the excesses of the 2007-08 Financial Crisis, engulfed by the subprime meltdown that swept through financial markets and cost an estimated $10 trillion in lost economic output.
Fun story. I was actually doing an internship at Lehman in December 2007 (not in subprime, I was in M&A). They offered me a job and I would have started in September 2008. Luckily for me I hated the internship so much I rejected it and got out of finance. But a lot of the interns round then racked up loads of expenses which were supposed to be paid back but when it went bust they were screwed. One girl I knew eventually got her money back about 4 years later.

Just to clarify, the expenses were living costs from the few weeks they had to spend in New York for the internship, not partying etc. Maybe they already knew they were going under as we got none of those perks
 
because every day especially in the us,there are stories like this
every transaction is on a public blockchain,
all the btc is leaving exchanges and going into custodial services.
even hl have grayscale buying page ready to go soon!
you can put it in your pension soon!

the banks are warning people not to buy while they suck it all up and down the line they will offer exposure to btc,for a fee of course!
Those articles talk about them offering bitcoin products to consumers, not buying and investing in it themselves.

None of this says anything about banks themselves buying bitcoin, just acting as an intermediary to an end consumer.
 
because every day especially in the us,there are stories like this
every transaction is on a public blockchain,
all the btc is leaving exchanges and going into custodial services.
even hl have grayscale buying page ready to go soon!
you can put it in your pension soon!

the banks are warning people not to buy while they suck it all up and down the line they will offer exposure to btc,for a fee of course!
Right the blockchain is public but the owners of wallets aren't publicly listed unless they choose to do so from my understanding, making it in-effect anonymous. Hence the adoption by criminals and nonces.
 

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