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didn't mike Ashley make something like 750m overnight in some market gamble?

No idea mate. Lots of people make lots of money in the markets, that is why so many people are attracted to them. But for every profitable trader there are 8 or 9 people who lose their money. I have experience enough to know that I am one who tends to lose their money - no shame in that. I do know a financial bubble when I see one, though, and simple maths, logic and history dictate that many more people will lose money than make it when the whole cycle is complete.
 
I took a chance and got some Ripple and Stellar in on the cheap. They're associated with firms like IBM and Santander so at least there seems to be a bit of legitimacy with them. Worth a punt!!

I was going to have a go at this as it's dirt cheap. I asked on here what I'd need and how to do it but not one of the ITK's in here would confess. Meh.
 
I was going to have a go at this as it's dirt cheap. I asked on here what I'd need and how to do it but not one of the ITK's in here would confess. Meh.

It's a ball ache. I bought some bitcoin on my Coinbase account and then transferred it to a Binance account that I opened today and then traded.
 
Bitcoin, Etherium, Litecoin, Ripple.. I don't care, they are ALL going to go down with the sinking ship.

A couple will emerge from the ashes and then might actually go on and become something useful to people (Amazon), but at this stage who the hell cares... we are seeing the most extreme financial bubble in recorded history going pop. If you think it's wise to be on the long side of that trade then God help you.
The winner will be whoever Amazon back. My money is on Ethereum. Unless they create thier own!!
 

The economist credited with predicting the 2008 global financial crisis said a 12% fall in the value of bitcoin on Friday was the latest proof that the cryptocurrency was the biggest bubble in history and destined for a crash.

Nouriel Roubini, professor of economics at New York University, said bitcoin was “the mother of all bubbles” favoured by “charlatans and swindlers” as it fell below $8,000 (£5,600) early on Friday, marking a 30% drop since the beginning of the week as investors became increasingly twitchy about a clampdown on cryptocurrencies by regulators. Later it rallied, climbing back over $8,600 by 3pm (GMT).

Bitcoin has lost more than half its value since hitting a peak of near $20,000 in the week before Christmas. Dubbed “Dr Doom”, Roubini said the sharp fall was the beginning of a crash that would see the value of the digital currency plummet “all the way down to zero”.
The latest sell-off follows reports that US regulators are investigating whether the spike in the price of bitcoin in 2017 was the result of market manipulation. India’s finance minister said the country did not recognise the cryptocurrency as legal tender, pledging to fight their use for “illegitimate activities”.

Digital currencies have also been hit by the news that Facebook is banning all adverts for cryptocurrencies. Ethereum, ripple, litecoin and other digital currencies all suffered double-digit percentage falls on Friday as investors took fright.

“Policymakers and regulators are getting worried. Pretty much every G20 policymaker is talking about a crackdown,” Roubini told Bloomberg Television. “We can’t allow it to become the next Swiss bank account for use by criminals and people evading tax.”

He added that the 1,300 cryptocurrencies or initial coin offerings currently in existence were “a scam”. “Most of them are even worse [than bitcoin] and don’t have any intrinsic value like bitcoin. So if bitcoin is a bubble, it’s a bubble to the power of two or three.”

Critics have warned that bitcoin has all the hallmarks of a classic speculative bubble that could burst, like the dotcom boom and the US sub-prime housing crash that triggered the global financial crisis. Last year it rose in value by more than 900%, making it the best performing asset of 2017.

Robert Shiller, the Nobel prize-winning economist, said last week that while bitcoin was a “really clever idea”, it would not become a permanent part of the financial world.

“I tend to think of bitcoin as an experiment. It is an interesting experiment, but it’s not a permanent feature of our lives,” he said, speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos.

Bitcoin is not recognised by any central bank and currently allows people to bypass banks and traditional payment methods to pay for goods and services. Banks and other financial institutions have been concerned about bitcoin’s early associations with money laundering and online crime, and it has not been adopted by any government.

However, the spike in the price is forcing regulators and institutions to consider how to respond.

Jon Cunliffe, deputy governor for financial stability at the Bank of England, has said that bitcoin is too small to pose a risk to the global economy. However, he warned that investors should “do their homework” before backing the digital currency.

“The wheels are coming off the bitcoin bandwagon,” said Neil Wilson, analyst at ETX Capital. “The regulatory crunch appears closer than ever and sooner or later this market could be headed back down to earth. Selling pressure at the moment is intense as there has been nothing but bad news for bitcoin bulls of late. Trying to catch the falling knife is a risky game.”


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    Zachary Bauer
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    IT'S NOT A BUBBLE! Bubbles burst because someone makes MORE of whatever is in demand thus enlarging the supply. BITCOIN is only limited to 21 million in supply. You cannot mathematically EVER make more of them. In fact, there are more millionaires in the world then there are bitcoin in the world. If every millionaire wanted one, they couldn't have it. Every bubble throughout history has burst because of an increase of supply over the demand. What you are seeing is the banks selling their positions to drop the market to get in at a lower low. You will probably see Bitcoin at around 100k before the end of 2018. Bet.

    Ive found Kevs real name ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
Appear to have stabilised. I’ve called the bottom before though and been found out. Still holding but feeling like a bit of a bag holder now.

From one perspective it doesn't even matter what it's worth, you can't sell it for real money without a huge amount of effort and good timing.

Tho' it is accepted in ever more places so you could just use it to buy stuff you would normally have used real money for.

The long-term problem of Crypto money is the computer power it needs to mine. It's not sustainable at this rate of growth. Check out the top 20 most-supported crowdfunding projects, most of them are blockchain. I foresee a crash similar to the Dotcom Bubble of 20 years ago.
 
I have no idea how much Kev has invested in this, and you all give him a hard time, but some of you should be careful.

The top posts on the CryptoCurrency subreddits have been the US Suicide hotline number, because people are losing ridiculous money, and some have gone so far to invest more than they can afford to lose. No idea if people like Kev have done that but you should all be a bit more 'aware'

Anyway back to Cypto, hopefully when we get past Chinese New Year, they'll all pump the market back up with the money they've got from relatives. I still don't think Bitcoin will go as high ever again though.

I also think we need the IBM/XLM powered exchange to launch as soon as it can, as they will be offereing FIAT pairs for every coin they trade, which will help stabilise prices.
 

I have no idea how much Kev has invested in this, and you all give him a hard time, but some of you should be careful.

The top posts on the CryptoCurrency subreddits have been the US Suicide hotline number, because people are losing ridiculous money, and some have gone so far to invest more than they can afford to lose. No idea if people like Kev have done that but you should all be a bit more 'aware'

Anyway back to Cypto, hopefully when we get past Chinese New Year, they'll all pump the market back up with the money they've got from relatives. I still don't think Bitcoin will go as high ever again though.

I also think we need the IBM/XLM powered exchange to launch as soon as it can, as they will be offereing FIAT pairs for every coin they trade, which will help stabilise prices.
Haven't the Chinese made moves to block trading Crypto currencies, hence the massive price drops?
 
The top posts on the CryptoCurrency subreddits have been the US Suicide hotline number, because people are losing ridiculous money, and some have gone so far to invest more than they can afford to lose.

There's nothing new in that, unfortunately. Markets are driven by greed and fear. Always have been, always will be. Fear will turn to anger, which will turn to despair. People are greedy when they're making money, and they're fearful as they're losing it. Those who proclaim their utmost belief in cryptos as new form of currency have just drunk too much of the kool aid. If you've speculated with enough money to feel excited and giddy on the way up, you've speculated with enough to make you feel sweaty and lose sleep on the way down...
 

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