2024/25 David Moyes

evertony said:
I would have agreed with you a month or so ago @davek but, and I'm not embarrassed to admit it, he's grown on me. I really didn't want him back for lots of reasons, but he really does appear a more mature, relaxed and rounded manager now. You only have to look at the players disposition in training and on match days compared to under Dyche.
Watching what the same group of players serve up now compared to the last two seasons has made going to the match a good experience again - the concensus around me in The Paddock is exactly the same and 90% of us were not overjoyed when he was appointed.
As for "lets get 40 points as soon as we can", thats staple for every manager in the league including Dychesaurus. Sean did some good things for this Club in dark times but watching the drivel he produced week-in, week-out was damn hard work. Sure, there'll be poor performances under Moyes, but there'll also be significantly more good days.
Wish today wasn't a 12.30 KO....but, we'll be en route in 45 mins.
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Just because we're relieved to be clear of danger, it doesn't wash away all Moyes' sins.

I for one will never accept him.
 

davek said:
That demeans this club.

He's acting like they're the biggest club in the world and little Everton are ten bob.

You can ALWAYS rely on Moyes to devalue Everton Football Club.
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I actually don’t mind that, I’d like to see Everton managers having a pop at Liverpool more often. One of the criticisms of his first time here was the reverence that he showed them and United. I actually thought this joke was him rubbing their contract misfortune in their face a bit. We have to start competing with them again and this will have resonated in their echelons, an Everton manager openly mocking their contract situation in front of the national media. Hopefully it’s an about turn from one of my few criticisms of his first spell here.
 
Saint Domingo said:
I actually don’t mind that, I’d like to see Everton managers having a pop at Liverpool more often. One of the criticisms of his first time here was the reverence that he showed them and United. I actually thought this joke was him rubbing their contract misfortune in their face a bit. We have to start competing with them again and this will have resonated in their echelons, an Everton manager openly mocking their contract situation in front of the national media. Hopefully it’s an about turn from one of my few criticisms of his first spell here.
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Yup. Moyes has done amazingly well so far - but the job, assuming he stays in it, is to get us back competing with Liverpool and United, in general, over time. The Liverpool performance was tremendous. But I want to see us do the same today. This is a huge test: a poor United side in terrible form but one we have a massive inferiority complex with. If Moyes can erase any inferiority complexes we have as a club during this tenure, he will have done a better job this time around than he did in his original stint.

We should feel inferior to nobody. Other clubs may have spent more money than us or may have better players than us, but if we are properly-funded, then we should demand to compete with these sides on a far more equal playing field. The inferiority of the Kenwright years was accentuated due to his relative poverty. Moyes made a good fist of that - but remained almost embarrassed to be in the company of the wealthy clubs - our former peers. That has to change now. Starting today. Let's see a side play toe-to-toe with this United side. We may not get a result - due to the inadequacy of our current players - but we should demand a performance.
 

Drico said:
Yup. Moyes has done amazingly well so far - but the job, assuming he stays in it, is to get us back competing with Liverpool and United, in general, over time. The Liverpool performance was tremendous. But I want to see us do the same today. This is a huge test: a poor United side in terrible form but one we have a massive inferiority complex with. If Moyes can erase any inferiority complexes we have as a club during this tenure, he will have done a better job this time around than he did in his original stint.

We should feel inferior to nobody. Other clubs may have spent more money than us or may have better players than us, but if we are properly-funded, then we should demand to compete with these sides on a far more equal playing field. The inferiority of the Kenwright years was accentuated due to his relative poverty. Moyes made a good fist of that - but remained almost embarrassed to be in the company of the wealthy clubs - our former peers. That has to change now. Starting today. Let's see a side play toe-to-toe with this United side. We may not get a result - due to the inadequacy of our current players - but we should demand a performance.
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Technically we currently are competing with United. In the battle for mid-table superiority.
 

By the way this is an actual pragmatic approach - to play to everyone's strengths collectively.

Dyche never was and never will be a pragmatist. Hoof/brexitball all the way and no plan B is not a pragmatic approach, but I was told I'm wrong when I said it before, as it was the players/weather/length of the grass and everything else that was against Dyche and not his own approach.
 

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