2023/24 Dele

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

….ridiculous. Huge risk we play him for 10 games, pay £10m and then he relapses to his old ways.

The club is not a charity, it has to be hard nosed. We should all wish the lad well with his health problems but taking Delli on in the first place is symptomatic of the basket case this club is. Paying any more monies for him other than his salary would be madness.

Hopefully we can keep making set-back excuses for the rest of the season.

Dele*

We can play him for 6 games no risk. If he plays really well in those 6 games, then we should consider it. To not consider it and continue to play mediocre players when if in this scenario he is playing well is ridiculous.

 

[Shibbywiggles]

Dele*

We can play him for 6 games no risk. If he plays really well in those 6 games, then we should consider it. To not consider it and continue to play mediocre players when if in this scenario he is playing well is ridiculous.

It’s literally a no lose situation. For no extra money we can play Dele instead of Doucoure for 6 matches.

I would imagine any ‘news’ (haven’t seen anything reputable) of a set back if real will be from the club because why would we rush him in to play the 6 games at anything less than 100% physical fitness and 100% having his head right?

It would be a disaster to rush him back into the spotlight, have him play poorly and have him written off again when he’s just been given one more chance and we have six games to show that for free.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

It’s literally a no lose situation. For no extra money we can play Dele instead of Doucoure for 6 matches.

I would imagine any ‘news’ (haven’t seen anything reputable) of a set back if real will be from the club because why would we rush him in to play the 6 games at anything less than 100% physical fitness and 100% having his head right?

It would be a disaster to rush him back into the spotlight, have him play poorly and have him written off again when he’s just been given one more chance and we have six games to show that for free.

I mean what are people afraid of? That we might actually end up with a good player on our hands after using him as a free trial for 6 games? The absolute shock and horror!

To be honest, it's all a mute point imo, because I don't think he's going to be mentally ready to play footy again this season, maybe not even physically either based on Dyche's standards, and he'd probably suffer from the negative fanbase on the field whilst finding his feet, I'd rather he found them off the field and became happy with himself as a person than as a footballer.

 

[BNJ1878]

I mean what are people afraid of?

That they'll be proved wrong.

People talk on here about players in factual terms. The reality is we have our own ideas about what might or might not work.

I get a feeling some are desperate for Dele not to play a single game just incase he shows he's our best player and they then have to think of new and inventive ways not to continue playing him.

For the record, I don't think we should have taken the deal we did. We have done, we're paying him anyway. Play him and make a decision then.

 

[Eggs]

Dele*

We can play him for 6 games no risk. If he plays really well in those 6 games, then we should consider it. To not consider it and continue to play mediocre players when if in this scenario he is playing well is ridiculous.

…’having money doesn’t make you happy in life, or escape the trauma of childhood’, just like a grammatical error or spelling mistake might hide a medical,or educational problem.

Despite my academic and civil service background, I’d never feel superior to correct anybody’s grammar on here especially when it’s clear what was being said. Yesterday I had my 3rd major eye operation in 18 months, very unpleasant and vision is not too good at the moment. Whether I put Delli, Deli or Delle doesn’t really matter.

 

[Eggs]

That they'll be proved wrong.

People talk on here about players in factual terms. The reality is we have our own ideas about what might or might not work.

I get a feeling some are desperate for Dele not to play a single game just incase he shows he's our best player and they then have to think of new and inventive ways not to continue playing him.

For the record, I don't think we should have taken the deal we did. We have done, we're paying him anyway. Play him and make a decision then.

…absolute nonsense.

Just like buying somebody with a history of muscle injuries should be avoided, so should gambling an extra £10m on a footballer with his fragility should be avoided.

Despite hardly playing for 2 years, he might turn out to be fantastic for the rest of his days, good luck to him if that’s the case but we should be cutting our losses and not paying any more. I’ve seen it so often in the past where a footballer nearing the end of their contract suddenly becomes robust and hits top form.

This is not about saving face, it’s about us not signing players like Delph and Deli.

 

[BNJ1878]

…absolute nonsense.

Just like buying somebody with a history of muscle injuries should be avoided, so should gambling an extra £10m on a footballer with his fragility should be avoided.

Despite hardly playing for 2 years, he might turn out to be fantastic for the rest of his days, good luck to him if that’s the case but we should be cutting our losses and not paying any more. I’ve seen it so often in the past where a footballer nearing the end of their contract suddenly becomes robust and hits top form.

This is not about saving face, it’s about us not signing players like Delph and Deli.

For somebody with an academic background your comprehension skills are severely lacking.

Read it again.

Short version, we're paying him anyway. Play him (if he gets physically fit) and make a decision.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

We can afford to play him for the next 6 games, doenst cost us a penny. Plenty of time for him to prove whether hes worth paying 10 mil for. If hes still gash hand him back on the 19 games.

I'll trust Dyche letting him on the pitch once fit enough. Caveat being does Dyche have enough time to make that decision.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

…’having money doesn’t make you happy in life, or escape the trauma of childhood’, just like a grammatical error or spelling mistake might hide a medical,or educational problem.

Despite my academic and civil service background, I’d never feel superior to correct anybody’s grammar on here especially when it’s clear what was being said. Yesterday I had my 3rd major eye operation in 18 months, very unpleasant and vision is not too good at the moment. Whether I put Delli, Deli or Delle doesn’t really matter.

I think it's important to respect somebody's name, especially when dealing with the sensitive subject of why he chooses to go by such name, so many people struggle with a four letter word in this thread, or to actually name him properly in the first place. I hope you eye recovers well.

 

[Eggs]

For somebody with an academic background your comprehension skills are severely lacking.

Read it again.

Short version, we're paying him anyway. Play him (if he gets physically fit) and make a decision.

….and that’s exactly what I’m saying we shouldn’t do.

Playing him and him impressing for 7 games doesn’t mean he won’t relapse and return to his old ways after 10 games. It’s really not a matter of ‘seeing how he goes’ and ‘we’ve got nothing to lose’. Once that £10m is paid we’d be carrying huge risk.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

….and that’s exactly what I’m saying we shouldn’t do.

Playing him and him impressing for 7 games doesn’t mean he won’t relapse and return to his old ways after 10 games. It’s really not a matter of ‘seeing how he goes’ and ‘we’ve got nothing to lose’. Once that £10m is paid we’d be carrying huge risk.

It's entirely fair to have that opinion as well, obviously differ because I'm going with my heart but my head understands the risk. We just have so little to look forward to currently. Dare to dream Eggs.

 

[BNJ1878]

….and that’s exactly what I’m saying we shouldn’t do.

Playing him and him impressing for 7 games doesn’t mean he won’t relapse and return to his old ways after 10 games. It’s really not a matter of ‘seeing how he goes’ and ‘we’ve got nothing to lose’. Once that £10m is paid we’d be carrying huge risk.

Every single signing is a risk.

He might relapse , he might not.

If he plays well before the next payment in due the 10m against the points he might bring is a gamble worth considering.

I'm not saying it's a 'must do deal' but as we're already commited to some degree it should be considered. (as opposed written off like you and several others are advocating)

 

[malcson]

…absolute nonsense.

Just like buying somebody with a history of muscle injuries should be avoided, so should gambling an extra £10m on a footballer with his fragility should be avoided.

Despite hardly playing for 2 years, he might turn out to be fantastic for the rest of his days, good luck to him if that’s the case but we should be cutting our losses and not paying any more. I’ve seen it so often in the past where a footballer nearing the end of their contract suddenly becomes robust and hits top form.

This is not about saving face, it’s about us not signing players like Delph and Deli.

If he doesn’t play for the next 6 months who is going to pay for a transfer or a loan? If he doesn’t play for 12 months who then pays a fee? Also what does it do for the player?

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Every single signing is a risk.

He might relapse , he might not.

If he plays well before the next payment in due the 10m against the points he might bring is a gamble worth considering.

I'm not saying it's a 'must do deal' but as we're already commited to some degree it should be considered. (as opposed written off like you and several others are advocating)

We might as well bin off Calvert Lewin evidently he is a risk.
Pretty sure we will see him now Iwobi is gone and Dyche is talking about Dele as in match fitness terms.

 

[Eggs]

If he doesn’t play for the next 6 months who is going to pay for a transfer or a loan? If he doesn’t play for 12 months who then pays a fee? Also what does it do for the player?

….sorry, not sure what you’re alluding to.

As far as I know, he’s got 12 months left on his contract so he won’t be subject to a transfer fee. Nobody wanted him on loan this summer and it’s unlikely anybody will want him in January.