Do away with draws

[Rob]

well, I did say for once

I honestly think that teams that draw and win more should be higher than the teams that win and lose more.

The current system punishes the teams who draw a lot of game, and for me that isn't right.

Wouldn't you say that we have a better record and better GD than bolton? and yet instead of being ahead of them by one, we are behind by 3.

That in itself speaks for itself and to be blunt, in favour of my argument.

 

[Robert Jarvis]

No need to get uptight, I just put this in as a topic for conversation or as Rob puts it a debate. It is strange though that the points raised favour Everton which say a lot for our results.

 

[Rob]

It does in this case RJ yes, but it is something I have thought for a long time, a draw should be worth significantly more than getting a beat but however should still be much less than a win.

 

[Robert Jarvis]

I think not for a no score draw, but for a score draw as today one would think should count for something. Just think 1 point each for a 0-0, but for a score draw 1 point to the home side and 2 points for the away club. How about that.

 

[Rob]

my god... now it is getting complicated RJ

Personally, whenever I think of changing it to a 4-2 system I always think well, if it ain't broke don't fix it. And football isn't broke, so it doesn't need fixing.

however, the CL now... THAT is broke.

 

[Robert Jarvis]

The CL will never change, why? you may ask. Simple G14. The top clubs in Europe regard it as their own little money spinner. But when you get leagues like in Scotland it becomes a joke, same 2 clubs each year who to be honest would struggle if they played in the PL.

 

[Rob]

yeh, I used to say that about the SPL but then... how many clubs have ever won the PL? 4? in how many years.... we can't exactly talk can we.

The G14 needs to be broken apart, the whole of football needs to side against it and demand it ceases to exist.

 

[monty]

The CL will never change, why? you may ask. Simple G14. The top clubs in Europe regard it as their own little money spinner. But when you get leagues like in Scotland it becomes a joke, same 2 clubs each year who to be honest would struggle if they played in the PL.

The only way the CL will change Robert is if the telly people want it to. That may happen if viewers start getting fed up with a handful of teams winning it all the time. Some of these people in charge of football would sell their mothers into slavery for a few bob.

 

[McBain]

VIDEO REFEREE

Its the simplest system and with all the money in this league Ive no clue why they dont put one in. Back play incidents, goal lines, handballs. Incident happens, ref stops play, Video ref has a look and Bobs your Uncle. We do it here in Rugby league (and they do the same in Super League).

Its not an entireley perfect system but it makes for some great drama in the crowd.

 

[Robert Jarvis]

It does, in general though Rugby refs are made of sterner and more intelligent stuff than football refs. Also the rugby players are far more disciplined when dealing with the ref. Football refs should hand out a few more red cards for dissent or arguing.

 

[monty]

It does, in general though Rugby refs are made of sterner and more intelligent stuff than football refs. Also the rugby players are far more disciplined when dealing with the ref. Football refs should hand out a few more red cards for dissent or arguing.

If they did the G14 group would be upset Robert because they have the majority of moaning gits in football, Utd, RS, Gooners, RM, Barca and you can add Chelsea if they ever get membership application accepted. All this carping on at the referee only serves as a very poor example to youngsters and should be stamped out with question but the authorities are either incapable or corrupt..

 

[SuitsBlue]

It does, in general though Rugby refs are made of sterner and more intelligent stuff than football refs. Also the rugby players are far more disciplined when dealing with the ref. Football refs should hand out a few more red cards for dissent or arguing.

never seen a rugby player dive either, and feign injury, and roll over 7 times to try to con a ref.

sterner and more intelligent stuff, isnt that the truth.

 

[Robert Jarvis]

Monty, you can add Allardyce to that list.

 

[bluekiwi]

Everyone have a look at the table bluekiwi posted, it shows that before bolton won we would have been 4 points ahead and going into tonight game one point ahead and not 3 points behind.

not a big difference? MY ARSE! its a 4 point difference and clearly displays that the current system favours teams that win or lose and hardly ever draw.

Hey Rob, when I said 'Not a huge difference', what I was meaning was in the general look of the table. Sure we were in a better position at that time, although we didn't exactly storm up the table. The thing is, if teams were to get more points for a draw, then I think you'd find that teams would sit back on a lead much more often, and settle for a draw.

never seen a rugby player dive either, and feign injury, and roll over 7 times to try to con a ref.

sterner and more intelligent stuff, isnt that the truth.

I do have to say, as an avid rugby fan (can't help it I'm Kiwi ), you'll find that there are other ways rugby players get away with 'professional fouls', much of which is not seen as it is located in the middle of a mass of bodies, although it is much better than it has been.

As for the way in rugby players are more disciplined, well this is basically due to the way in which penalties are handled, either marched 10m down the field, or reversed.

I dont' think it has so much to do with the refs or the players themselves, but much more to do with the rules that have been changed by the governing body!!

And as much as I'd like to see certain changes added to football, I can't see it happening, FIFA can't make decisions, they pfaff around and are more worried about where the next world cup is going to be held.


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