2018/19 Dominic Calvert-Lewin

[evertonarntwe]

Why’s it up to Dom to ensure the rest of our attackers remember how to shoot? Last I remember he didn’t miss a chance he took.

and there lies you're problem, we absolutely battered arsenal and yet our striker didn't even have a chance because he doesn't get in the right positions, and when he does his finishing is often "not the best"

again not slating dom because he's been brilliant but moving forward he does need to score more, because having a striker who scored 7 goals a season isn't good enough for me

 

[sageyefc]

and there lies you're problem, we absolutely battered arsenal and yet our striker didn't even have a chance because he doesn't get in the right positions, and when he does his finishing is often "not the best"

again not slating dom because he's been brilliant but moving forward he does need to score more, because having a striker who scored 7 goals a season isn't good enough for me

A lot of the time he chooses the wrong option aswell. Arsenal game as an example when he should've slipped Bernard in one on one

 

[Zatara]

W

who are you ? And what have you done with Zat ?

Why? Ive always rated him...

So he’s going to score 19 goals if he plays all of next season? Lol

This season he's on a ratio of 14.25 in 38 games.

Hes had a stop start season.

19 is 38 ÷2 which would be a 1 in 2 forward.

Hes not far off that already statistically.

Thats statistics, based on actual minutes played including against Chelsea, Arsenal, RS, City etc

If he came on for 10seconds at the end of every game you would have him at 0 in 38.

You can only gauge him on mins on the pitch and in this season hes statistically on 6 in 16 or 14.25 over a season.

Its not hard to calculate...

 

[evertonarntwe]

A lot of the time he chooses the wrong option aswell. Arsenal game as an example when he should've slipped Bernard in one on one

definitely this ye, he is getting better like and he even said on MOTD he sometimes picks the wrong options and it's something he's working on, if he can add goals to his game we won't even need to spend mega money on a new one because he would be a boss player then.

 

[Neiler]

That makes him a good finisher?

So we have a striker that either doesn’t shoot or doesn’t even get in shooting positions?

But both teams were wildly different, i mean there were about 11 different player on those teams to one now, not just the strikers as are the systems to then and now. Like a few of us have been making the case for the system is moving toward looking at the front three as an attacking unit rather then a unilateral one of one primary goal scorer. The teams system also dictates the forward players being mobile and press without the ball, else wise we are loosing games 3-2 etc, i loved the Yak and i loved Rom but pressing and them were separated at birth.

I dont wholly disagree with you, we want the best goalscorer with attributes to also work the high press, i just think lads like Rom and the Yak wouldnt fit into that system and if they did play we would have to compensate else where or others players would become isolated as you have to play to their strgths and make them a their natural game the focal point in short you have to make the team fit the player rather then the player fitting the team. It would undermine the overall game plan, philosophy and system. In short we cant carry a lad up front who token runs, but will score a fair few in isolation. For me the goals need to be shared amongst a quadrant of the front three and likely Gylfi in behind. dont get me wrong with the right recruitment we can really increase our output through that quadrant.

 

[Nymzee]

and there lies you're problem, we absolutely battered arsenal and yet our striker didn't even have a chance because he doesn't get in the right positions, and when he does his finishing is often "not the best"

again not slating dom because he's been brilliant but moving forward he does need to score more, because having a striker who scored 7 goals a season isn't good enough for me

How could he get into the right positions on Sunday when he was occupying 3 centre halves out wide to himself????? I’m not saying he scores enough but I’m also not accepting Heskey was a failed PL striker either.

 

[dead_soft]

How could he get into the right positions on Sunday when he was occupying 3 centre halves out wide to himself????? I’m not saying he scores enough but I’m also not accepting Heskey was a failed PL striker either.

Anyone who thinks Heskey was a failed PL striker has genuinely no clue.
DCL is a decent top flight player and will be very useful for us over the coming years

 

[Lanolin]

Why? Ive always rated him...




This season he's on a ratio of 14.25 in 38 games.

Hes had a stop start season.

19 is 38 ÷2 which would be a 1 in 2 forward.

Hes not far off that already statistically.

Thats statistics, based on actual minutes played including against Chelsea, Arsenal, RS, City etc

If he came on for 10seconds at the end of every game you would have him at 0 in 38.

You can only gauge him on mins on the pitch and in this season hes statistically on 6 in 16 or 14.25 over a season.

Its not hard to calculate...

This isn't a criticism of DCL but you can't really translate the stats that way. A couple of his goals have come when coming on as a late sub against tiring and attacking teams, so it's not as easy as saying more minutes will automatically equate to more goals. Only 3 of his goals have come in the 14 games he's started as a striker, with 2 off the bench and 1 when coming from the wing, so he may find it more difficult to score goals when tasked with leading the line. He might not, obviously, just pointing out why the stats don't necessarily say what you're suggesting they do.

 

[GwladysPhil]

Should he start every week for us next season whilst he's still developing?

 

[evertonarntwe]

How could he get into the right positions on Sunday when he was occupying 3 centre halves out wide to himself????? I’m not saying he scores enough but I’m also not accepting Heskey was a failed PL striker either.

again I'm not saying DCL should have scored vs arsenal, my point was you said if he scores at the same ratio as heskey you would be happy

I wouldnt

Anyone who thinks Heskey was a failed PL striker has genuinely no clue.
DCL is a decent top flight player and will be very useful for us over the coming years

Heskey was turd apart from about 4 seasons in the 19 he played in the prem

 

[Big Fat Sam]

You're missing a load of other attributes such as positioning, link up play, control, dribbling, technique, etc. All of which Kane is vastly superior to DCL. I like DCL, but it's a bit misleading to compare him to Kane in the manner you have, they are worlds apart at the moment and DCL may never reach that level.

Deliberately misleading.

 

[bring the ghost on]

Deliberately misleading.

Right. I thought you were being serious.

 

[BillLovesRoo]

Lol make that’s bollocks , he can’t get lots of chances , have only 6 goals and still have one of the best conversion rates in the league. Simple cannot be true, either he’s a leather finisher to have that percentage of finishing chances , yet doesn’t get many or he does get chances and struggles to convert them or the 6 pl goals he has is a lie and he’s actually on 15 goals. The saying goes “ you can use stats to prove anything” and think I have just seen a perfect example of that being used to prove something that is not true. He’s not a good finisher, you saying he is when it’s obvious he’s not , really weakens your opinion when you say things about the rest of his game

But look at the stats
Calvert Lewin scores 1 in 6 chances
Aguero scores 1 on 5 chances
Salah scores 1 in 6 chances
Aubamayang scores 1 in 4.4 chances
Kane scores 1 in 6 chances
Mane scores 1 in 4.3 chances
Steling scores 1 in 4.1 chances

Now they are the best scorers in the league, but lets compare it to players in our side and players in teams around us
Vardy scores 1 in 4.4 (impressive) chances
Maddison scores 1 in 10,1 chances
Jiminez scores 1 in 7.8 chances
Jota scores 1 in 5.2 chances
Richarlison scores 1 in 5.75 chances
Sigurdsson scores 1 in 6.5 chances
Tosun scores 1 in 16 chances
Deeney scores 1 in 6.3 chances
Gray scores 1 in 5 chances

Other players who are seen as top finishers but maybe not scored many this term
Lukaku scores 1 in 4.3 chances
Firmino scores 1 in 5.8 chances
Rashford 1 in 6.7 chances
Lacazette 1 in 5.07 chances

Calvert Lewin stands at 1 goal in every 6.3 chances
So yes while there are some forwards on the list with better averages than Calvert Lewin, the stereotype that he cant finish his chances isnt true.
Maybe, he needs to get himself in more goalscoring positions to up his goal tally, that could be a genuine critisism of him.
But the "he cant finsih" tag is just lazy

 

[Joey66]

Should he start every week for us next season whilst he's still developing?

Yes Joe Royle did......

 

[malcson]

He's the only English striker playing who has scored the winner in a World Cup