Donald Trump for President Thread

[ilikecheese]

Is it ok morally or should a business owner have the right to refuse business for personal reasons?

The former, of course not. The latter? Yes, I think so, given reasonable limits - it should not be allowed for businesses that arr required services or receive any public benefit. I'm generally against legislating morality on a personal level.

But I admit I emotionally believe otherwise - I just intellectually refuse to be inconsistent in my arguments. I believe people should be allowed to be stupid and selfish legally, so long as it is not backed by the government.

Taking us back pre civil rights movement.

White only restaurants and such.

I know that's not what you believe.

 

[ilikecheese]

You are none the least concerned prior to this election?

Not as much as you'd think based on the what you've been reading in the media.

My statement regarding Trump largely includes the next appointments to the Supreme Court. Those decisions will last far longer than either of these candidates.

 

[dandydan]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

Seeing as it was written by slavers the constitution was invalid before the ink was dry.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

I'm not too clued up on this, for my sins - but didn't them scientologists become a 'proper' religion and therefore get the tax exemption?

While they might be allowed to practice freely - are they 'established' or 'recognised' ?

 

[RaleighBlue]

Taking us back pre civil rights movement.

White only restaurants and such.

I know that's not what you believe.

Fair play. As I said, I'm conflicted. I don't believe any of the above personally, but the line has to be clearer than it is.

Religion is messy and nonsensical, and goes against everything I hold dearest. I don't know if I should be the one to make decisions about how religion manifests, because to me it's all dangerous claptrap that is the enemy of knowledge.

Basically, I'll bow out of this one because I'm falling into the dangerous zone where I believe people don't suck and wouldn't ruin a simple concept. But they probably would, and that's not cool.

 

[kithnou]

These speaches at the Waldorf Astoria are hilarious tonight!

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Religion is messy and nonsensical,

Amen.

 

[dandydan]

Taking us back pre civil rights movement.

White only restaurants and such.

I know that's not what you believe.

And it's come full circle
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/25748/

 

[kithnou]

 

[ilikecheese]

And it's come full circle
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/25748/

Perhaps the university should be looking at their school and students to find out why a group of their students don't feel safe on their campus. Seems like there must be something fundamentally going wrong on that campus.

 

[ilikecheese]

Fair play. As I said, I'm conflicted. I don't believe any of the above personally, but the line has to be clearer than it is.

Religion is messy and nonsensical, and goes against everything I hold dearest. I don't know if I should be the one to make decisions about how religion manifests, because to me it's all dangerous claptrap that is the enemy of knowledge.

Basically, I'll bow out of this one because I'm falling into the dangerous zone where I believe people don't suck and wouldn't ruin a simple concept. But they probably would, and that's not cool.

Yeah...I definitely think religion is both messy and very nonsensical. Clearly there are folks that are passionate about it...people have been killing in the name of their God for thousands of years. I simply don't get it, and I doubt that I ever will.

For me race is a non negotiable. People are born into whatever race they are. I think it's dangerous to limit any one of any race on where they can and can't go, and should be against the law in this country. The Civil Rights Movement fought tooth and nail to make the progress it has, and the work still isn't done.

I think most would also say that sexuality isn't a choice these days, which has been a radical change in my lifetime. A radically good change. There was a time in my life where purely out of ignorance I wasn't comfortable with gay people. Thankfully I've lived and learned, and now just accept people as they are.

Religion is different I guess. It is a choice, but one of this country's founding principles is freedom of religion. I would hope that religions could (and frankly have) moved with the times. Yeah, they tend to be a bit slower to accept progress and change, but to remain relevant, views evolve.

There are blurred lines. I don't think it shows hypocrisy of liberals though that not everything is black and white. I'm not sure why @dandydan feels liberals are hypocrites. I think most liberals are fighting the fight for good and progress. We look to the future with an eye on making positive changes. For me conservatives look longingly to the past and fear a future that is different than today because for some reason they don't get why progress is good.

I hope I never understand that way of thinking.

 

[McBain]

 

[Dylan]

Poor donald...

And poor 'murica - If you folks don't see how 'mussolini' he is.

By that, I mean in his demeanour/manner/oratory.

Am I the only person notices how he waves his hands about (As bliar used to) but the way he makes a ring with his thumb and forefinger while he's harping on...Or points upwards, with his thumb splayed out?

And the way he puckers his gob? Ok, in a not so Mussolini fashion, with the bottom lip protruding, it's still a sort of trademark grid, though.

At first, I honestly thought he was the alternative to the mainstream. The 'Stick it to the man' , or the 'We're fed up with the wall street owned politicians' (Which is what you'll get with hillary)

But he's just a beaut.

Good lord no!!! He calls that 'the Cobra' apparently!

 

[Tubey]

Wow.

 

[Harryflashman]

Wow.

Wow indeed .

I and others have said much of his support will defend him no matter what and you don't get much better evidence than that .