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Duncan Ferguson - The Coach

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He's never seemed to me someone who would be interested in becoming manager. I think he was chosen for the short term role for the feel good factor - much like Unsworth versus Norwich after Martinez was sacked. Obviously we wouldn't have got that again from Unsworth himself after he visibly struggled in the role of Caretaker Manager.

Typically in these type of situations the Temporary Manager mostly goes with similar to what the dispatched Manager was doing but changes some personnel.

Playing two up top would be nice - I don't think any striker at the club is suited to playing up there alone.
 

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davek said:
I watchded him play week in week out mate. Unplayable in the air...when he bothered to show up and perform. The rest of it was utter medicority.

His legend status is for those who are impressed by fellers who have a hard man reputation...probably to make up for their own inadequacies.
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How to insult a large majority of the fan base, out of order Dave, you regularly tred close to over stepping the line but you can’t label people like that I’m afraid. No need.
 
Coggy said:
You'll hate it at Goodison against Chelsea won't you mate, when the whole ground gives him a standing ovation. You will be the only one sat down in protest.
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Only place he will be sitting down in is his living room doesn't go near Goodison to support the lads
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street end said:
How to insult a large majority of

How to insult a large majority of the fan base, out of order Dave, you regularly tred close to over stepping the line but you can’t label people like that I’m afraid. No need.
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Ok, that's a fair point. I went too far on that.

However, people are bringing up an unreal fantasy view of the past with regard to the galoot, IMO. They were probably kids when he played and maybe didn't take it all in. He cancelled whatever good he did out by being ill-disciplined on the pitch with his OTT antics and the fact he turned up and gave it his all about 1 in 3 games.

He's feted by that demographic. I know what real effort and talent looks like in a blue shirt. I watched him week in week out, and he defo doesn't compare with any Everton legend I've witnessed.

And he's been part of the problem here at Everton in recent years. If he's a coach then I cant detect it. Not one forward looks to be coached to a better level by him.
 

davek said:
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Ok, that's a fair point. I went too far on that.

However, people are bringing up an unreal fantasy view of the past with regard to the galoot, IMO. They were probably kids when he played and maybe didn't take it all in. He cancelled whatever good he did out by being ill-disciplined on the pitch with his OTT antics and the fact he turned up and gave it his all about 1 in 3 games.

He's feted by that demographic. I know what real effort and talent looks like in a blue shirt. I watched him week in week out, and he defo doesn't compare with any Everton legend I've witnessed.

And he's been part of the problem here at Everton in recent years. If he's a coach then I cant detect it. Not one forward looks to be coached to a better level by him.
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I think its a Time and Place thing mate. Like you say, his injuries, off field antics, and actual goals would confer "Legend" on very few. But at the time, he was a beacon of hope.

I guess its similar to Malcolm MacDonald being seen at Arsenal in a similar light. (Back in the day, granted). They were poor, he was the big new thing, played a season and a bit, but at the time had a similar impact on Highbury that Duncan did at Goodison.
 
davek said:
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Ok, that's a fair point. I went too far on that.

However, people are bringing up an unreal fantasy view of the past with regard to the galoot, IMO. They were probably kids when he played and maybe didn't take it all in. He cancelled whatever good he did out by being ill-disciplined on the pitch with his OTT antics and the fact he turned up and gave it his all about 1 in 3 games.

He's feted by that demographic. I know what real effort and talent looks like in a blue shirt. I watched him week in week out, and he defo doesn't compare with any Everton legend I've witnessed.

And he's been part of the problem here at Everton in recent years. If he's a coach then I cant detect it. Not one forward looks to be coached to a better level by him.
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Fair enough Dave, your entitled to your opinion as much as anyone else, I think we just have to back him and try and get some positivity going around the whole club/stadium, Duncan mentioned that in his press conference also. Time will tell or at least tomorrow will show us a glimpse anyway of what his coaching is like but we need to remember he’s had one training session with the team and the injuries and there for everyone to see.
 
Kever10 said:
If you can't understand his adulation, you are either old enough and lucky enough to compare him to other genuine legends, too young to have been around in the 90s, or simply not paying attention when he was here.

He may not have had the best goalscoring record. He may not have played as often as he himself would've liked (which also affected said goals record). He may have let his emotions get the best of him at times and been sent off/suspended. All of this true.

But to people of a certain age, he was also the Ray of hope in a pretty turgid time for the club. He was a catalyst for some of our biggest moments in a dire period of our history.

He was larger than life, an enigma, a wildcard, and on his day was absolutely unplayable. He was actually a much better player than most people give him credit for, and has scored some of the best goals I've ever seen us score. He was a literal thorn in the sides of Liverpool and Man Utd at a time when we could otherwise have got nowhere near either of them. He led the team with a passion and a desire that most people watching could understand and relate to, and that most teams we faced would fear.

His injuries are well documented, but the way people dismiss them as though he decided to be injured so he could take a week off are way off the mark. To the contrary, he probably shortened his career and caused himself more lasting damage than necessary by playing when he shouldn't have, a recurring theme for many Everton players in the 90s.

If he wasn't your cup of tea, then so be it, but to me personally, he is and was my Everton hero, at a time when hero's where in short supply.

I was there when he scored his 1st ever goal for us in my 1st ever Derby with a towering header, bullying them the entire game with his trademark swagger and aggression.

I was there when he scored against Utd and ran right past us in the family enclosure, swinging his shirt above his head.

I was there on the day he showed up £15m Alan Shearer with a dominant man of the match performance, the 1st game in my season Ticket seat which I still have today.

I was there when Howard Kendall made him captain for the 1st time against Bolton and he led the line scoring his 1st hat trick, all headers.

I was there at the other Newcastle game the night he was secretly sold, and the next day, me and my mate left 6th form early to walk to Goodison and see if it was true that he had gone, before walking home, devastated, after finding out it was.

I was there when when he made his 2nd debut against Charlton, scoring twice after coming on as a late substitute.

I was there in 2005 when he pulled out another giant performance and another great goal to beat Man Utd on the way to us finishing 4th.

I was there when he scored his last goal in the last minute of his final game against West Brom.

And I will be there when he leads the team out as manager, just over 25 years since he 1st joined us on loan as we languished at the bottom of the table.

His performance and goal against Liverpool, the 1st game as manager for another famous Everton number 9, was the catalyst for a turn around in attitude and belief in a season that saw us climb the table to safety and win the FA Cup against all odds.

He may not have experience as a manager at the highest level, but nor did Guardiola when he took over at Barcelona, Zidane at Madrid, Mourinho at Benfica, or Brands former protege Philip Cocu at PSV. And more importantly, nor did Howard Kendall.

Experience is great sometimes. Sometimes it counts for nothing.
Everyone had to start somewhere, and sometimes, all you need is a spark.

Like him or loathe him, I genuinely believe Duncan loves the club and only wants what's best for Everton.

So let's just get behind him while he's in charge and try not to burden him with the same toxic atmosphere that has saw off so many before him.
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I'll be honest with you mate, I'm not one of those who sees DF as a club legend however, your post above commands and demands respect.
You have outlined passionately and lucidly what DF means to you and all power to you for expressing it so clearly.

I fully accept, as a older Blue who saw the likes of the Holy Trinity play, that to much younger Blues than I, DF is the player who filled a huge void.

I'll also be honest and say that when I heard yesterday evening that he would be in charge against Chelsea, I could hardly believe my ears... but overnight and having slept on it and then having watched his press conference today, I wish him the very best and hope for all our sakes he has a dramatic effect upon the team he selects to play.

For sure, I expect the crowd will be behind him, the chanting of his name will be deafening and hopefully, the players will respond and get a win we so desperately need after the last two games.
 
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Ok, that's a fair point. I went too far on that.

However, people are bringing up an unreal fantasy view of the past with regard to the galoot, IMO. They were probably kids when he played and maybe didn't take it all in. He cancelled whatever good he did out by being ill-disciplined on the pitch with his OTT antics and the fact he turned up and gave it his all about 1 in 3 games.

He's feted by that demographic. I know what real effort and talent looks like in a blue shirt. I watched him week in week out, and he defo doesn't compare with any Everton legend I've witnessed.

And he's been part of the problem here at Everton in recent years. If he's a coach then I cant detect it. Not one forward looks to be coached to a better level by him.
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Wish some of our current players would deliver that sort of consistency.
 

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