dyche thinks

" Dychette`s were remainers, acknowledging issues but seeing it was likely better to see out his time until new owners came in "
" Fortunately remainers were on the winning side "

He was in the process of taking us down and not one of the " Dychettes " wanted him to go when the new owners came in, quite the opposite, they dug in even deeper, with all the bollox about " no one can get more out of this team / no one can do a better job "

I don't think thats true.

I can only share my own opinion - and evidently, I am an advocate of what he achieved overall considering the context.

I knew he wasn't going anywhere while Moshiri was selling.

But come the first defeat under new owners - Nottingham Forest, I said he had to go/new owners needed to change it.

My concern though is they've jibbed their long term plan, because Dyche was never getting another deal, and they wouldn't have hired Moyes in the summer.

It'll either be a lucky accident, or in years to come we could regret it. Time will tell.
 

" Dychette`s were remainers, acknowledging issues but seeing it was likely better to see out his time until new owners came in "
" Fortunately remainers were on the winning side "

He was in the process of taking us down and not one of the " Dychettes " wanted him to go when the new owners came in, quite the opposite, they dug in even deeper, with all the bollox about " no one can get more out of this team / no one can do a better job "

You've got the analogy backwards, mate. The Dyche loyalists are the real Brexiters here - you backed him blindly to the bitter end, and some of you still defend that one-dimensional, egotistical dinosaur. You're like the Johnson fanatics who stuck by him no matter what. You're not on the right side of history. If it were up to some of you, especially the ones who don’t even go to the game , we’d still be stuck with him.

I was all for him staying this season but it was obvious his time was up, he got found out and gave up, he’s not the messiah you all made him out to be, he couldn’t adapt and doubled down by playing even more turgid football than usual.

“I was all for him staying this season but it was obvious his time was up, he got found out and gave up, he’s not the messiah you all made him out to be, he couldn’t adapt and doubled down by playing even more turgid football than usual.“
That is where litterally everyone ended up, new owners new start… that’s not brexit… don’t allow yourself to get drawn into supporting those that argued against him from day one, and continue to hate him…

MikeH has reformer voter written all over him, wakes up… gets angry on the internet. Goes to bed.
 
“I was all for him staying this season but it was obvious his time was up, he got found out and gave up, he’s not the messiah you all made him out to be, he couldn’t adapt and doubled down by playing even more turgid football than usual.“
That is where litterally everyone ended up, new owners new start… that’s not brexit… don’t allow yourself to get drawn into supporting those that argued against him from day one, and continue to hate him…

MikeH has reformer voter written all over him, wakes up… gets angry on the internet. Goes to bed.

Good argument bro. Join us after the break for more.
 
“I was all for him staying this season but it was obvious his time was up, he got found out and gave up, he’s not the messiah you all made him out to be, he couldn’t adapt and doubled down by playing even more turgid football than usual.“
That is where litterally everyone ended up, new owners new start… that’s not brexit… don’t allow yourself to get drawn into supporting those that argued against him from day one, and continue to hate him…

MikeH has reformer voter written all over him, wakes up… gets angry on the internet. Goes to bed.
This is what we're dealing with

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A user in here giving out about someone 'jobless' made 75% more posts on the old Dyche thread than the 3rd most active user.
 


And thank god he was on the 10th January!

People that support the tyranny of Margaret Thatcher don’t deserve my humanity and respect when the shoe is on the other foot, so sorry about that one.
 
I don't think thats true.

I can only share my own opinion - and evidently, I am an advocate of what he achieved overall considering the context.

I knew he wasn't going anywhere while Moshiri was selling.

But come the first defeat under new owners - Nottingham Forest, I said he had to go/new owners needed to change it.

My concern though is they've jibbed their long term plan, because Dyche was never getting another deal, and they wouldn't have hired Moyes in the summer.

It'll either be a lucky accident, or in years to come we could regret it. Time will tell.
The fact that we were just one point above the relegation zone under Dyche completely invalidates the "we could regret it" argument for me. No one wanted to go through another season of worrying, just hoping the bottom three don’t go on a run. Things weren’t looking good, and there's no way we can regret not keeping a manager who essentially wanted to leave towards the end.
 

Hello.

I think you either have a short, or selective memory. Or, you're blinkered in anger towards Dyche.

My opinion has been consistent.

Before that season started, I shared a view we'd struggle;



Just before we then achieved our worst ever points total on our history going onto Feb, with a total no team had stayed up with from before, I shared reason why I think we were down - right here. We got worse after that too losing Southampton (H) and West Ham (A).

You actually agreed, replying to my thread 'Why I Think Everton Will Be Relegated' on 19th Jan 2023 with;



The week after, and a week or so before we hired Dyche you'd defend Lampard, like;



So the week or so before Dyche, you were saying we were down because we're crap. You'd also regularly defended Lampard for not having the players.

My view has remained that, a view you shared - it hasn't changed because Dyche isn't as fashionable as Lampard.

We stayed up.

If I'm saying before the season started under Lampard we'll be relegation fodder, and going into Feb under Lampard that we'll go down - then yes, I'm going to give Dyche credit for preventing that.

You can sneer at that effort now, downplay it as Dyche's fault for not winning enough with a team that lost 11 in 14 before he come in before Bournemouth - but I'll give Dyche credit. The only time I felt we were going down, he come in and prevented that. If you go back and review your posts in the months before Dyche, maybe you would give him credit too.

[Edit] Oh and @windymiller if someone calls me a wum/credentials on being an Evertonian, I'll gladly review the archives. ;):lol:
RIP @Gilbert..
 
The fact that we were just one point above the relegation zone under Dyche completely invalidates the "we could regret it" argument for me. No one wanted to go through another season of worrying, just hoping the bottom three don’t go on a run. Things weren’t looking good, and there's no way we can regret not keeping a manager who essentially wanted to leave towards the end.
I don't wish to speak for anyone, but I think he means appointing Moyes in what could be seen as a shot term move.

Myself, I can't quite believe after all the events of the last few years that we are actually in what feels like a pretty good position to move forward. When you look back its pretty incredible we can say that and we aren't being 777'd in the championship with a 20 point deduction.
 

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